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Post by harrytom on Jan 16, 2024 3:51:34 GMT 12
Been sussing a new ute now there is no extra taxes on them. It will have to run on dinosaur juice as there are no other options and none close. Shit choices and horrendous prices for such extensive use of old technologies as there is in the main stream brand names. Looks like another Ssingsong is on the cards, newer technologies and no brand price premium. What's the difference between a EV owner and someone on the dole long term and someone inside for kiddy fiddling? They all bludge off the rest of society. LVD ute range,there is ev model out or coming out soon.Like a lot of the unkown brands,lvd ssangyong foton by GWM mahindra etc look nice.Claims of be capable off rd.would I take a ranger 4 wheel driving,proberly not. Why is the Toyota range so popular in NZ is a question you might want to ask yourself? Price puts me right off,no idea how they can justify it. I see the lvd ev ute wow 79k much rather have diesil for that price Depends on use.comute + farm work Would I buy GWM ute no but the HAVAL car by GWM seems ok Was looking for a new wagon but having spent 2k on wheel bearings I will be keeping for a while,yep bearing are 150 each but tried doing one myself ,got everything disassembled just needing to remove bearing hub and no wouldnt budge,rang the subby man and his first question.Have you got a 10t jack as they freeze on to shaft.Reassemble and take to shop.Bugger. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 16, 2024 8:13:21 GMT 12
Been sussing a new ute now there is no extra taxes on them. It will have to run on dinosaur juice as there are no other options and none close. Shit choices and horrendous prices for such extensive use of old technologies as there is in the main stream brand names. Looks like another Ssingsong is on the cards, newer technologies and no brand price premium. What's the difference between a EV owner and someone on the dole long term and someone inside for kiddy fiddling? They all bludge off the rest of society. Why is the Toyota range so popular in NZ is a question you might want to ask yourself? Price puts me right off,no idea how they can justify it. Reliability and retained value, altho they are not perfect, the 3.0L diesel fitted to previous model Hiluxes and Prado's have more than their share of problems. We had near on 200 Hiluxes on the motorway project, not many mechanical issues but the local panel beaters were kept busy  , lost one due to it having a swim when idiot driver tried to cross the flooded Falls Rd floodway and went off the edge. Ask any 3.2 Ranger owner what they think about Ford if they did not catch the endemic EGR cooler failure between 80-100k and they hydrauliced their engine thanks to coolant entering the combustion chambers. Alot of issues with the new 10speed auto's and the "new" V6's have a rather chequered past in their installation in Disco's/RR's/Territories amongst others (The "Lion" V6 engine series is a JV between Ford and Peugoet) My local mechanic said his choice of the current utes out there is the Isuzu DMAX/Mazda BT.... |
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Post by harrytom on Jan 16, 2024 8:24:38 GMT 12
Why is the Toyota range so popular in NZ is a question you might want to ask yourself? Price puts me right off,no idea how they can justify it. Reliability and retained value, altho they are not perfect, the 3.0L diesel fitted to previous model Hiluxes and Prado's have more than their share of problems. We had near on 200 Hiluxes on the motorway project, not many mechanical issues but the local panel beaters were kept busy , lost one due to it having a swim when idiot driver tried to cross the flooded Falls Rd floodway and went off the edge. Ask any 3.2 Ranger owner what they think about Ford if they did not catch the endemic EGR cooler failure between 80-100k and they hydrauliced their engine thanks to coolant entering the combustion chambers. Alot of issues with the new 10speed auto's and the "new" V6's have a rather chequered past in their installation in Disco's/RR's/Territories amongst others (The "Lion" V6 engine series is a JV between Ford and Peugoet) My local mechanic said his choice of the current utes out there is the Isuzu DMAX/Mazda BT.... Dmax is very tempting and competitive price.Isuzu is GM so no issue there. know 2 people trade their colorado holdens in on rangers now regretting they go the dmax good article dmax v toyota www.carsguide.com.au/isuzu/d-max/vs/toyota-hilux |
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Post by GO30 on Jan 16, 2024 9:58:06 GMT 12
Been sussing a new ute now there is no extra taxes on them. It will have to run on dinosaur juice as there are no other options and none close. Shit choices and horrendous prices for such extensive use of old technologies as there is in the main stream brand names. Looks like another Ssingsong is on the cards, newer technologies and no brand price premium. What's the difference between a EV owner and someone on the dole long term and someone inside for kiddy fiddling? They all bludge off the rest of society. LVD ute range,there is ev model out or coming out soon.Like a lot of the unkown brands,lvd ssangyong foton by GWM mahindra etc look nice.Claims of be capable off rd.would I take a ranger 4 wheel driving,proberly not. Why is the Toyota range so popular in NZ is a question you might want to ask yourself? Price puts me right off,no idea how they can justify it. I see the lvd ev ute wow 79k much rather have diesil for that price Depends on use.comute + farm work Would I buy GWM ute no but the HAVAL car by GWM seems ok Was looking for a new wagon but having spent 2k on wheel bearings I will be keeping for a while,yep bearing are 150 each but tried doing one myself ,got everything disassembled just needing to remove bearing hub and no wouldnt budge,rang the subby man and his first question.Have you got a 10t jack as they freeze on to shaft.Reassemble and take to shop.Bugger. The LDV EV ute has been in NZ for a while. I knew it would be at Field days so has a suss before I went, the LDV site said range is 360km. At FD I chatted to sales dude who said they had one and had been using if for a couple of months. I asked about range and he said they were getting 260-270km a charge. That was in Christchurch city so flat roads. When I said LDV reckon 360km range he just replied 'All manufacturers lie, I wouldn't believe the EV range any more than the ICE range manufacturers publish'. It was then I asked him if he looked his job as that was a bit WTF responce for a salesman, he laughed and said his Mummy taught him never to lie. We have noticed the LDV site has dropped it's range to 320km.
Anyway 260km range on flat roads in a city as a commuter means as my ute the range will be less, possibly a LOT less. So 150km from city to rural means I have to charge it on the farm. The ute has a 88kw battery, the farm has a 9.6kw (4.8kw useable) battery. And there ends any EV in rural plans.
Besides that ute is now obsolete and they are selling down the last of the NZ stock. There is a growing stronger talk of the new Ssingsong EV being tested in NZ with a rumoured 1000km range. The Ssingsong brand is going all EV and the mob who brought it will use their name for the ICE offering. That mob is a Chinese outfit is called KG Mobility Group.
I have no problem at all taking my Ssingsongs into the weeds and I have done a lot. As yet there is nothing I've tried it hasn't done and it has towed a BT50 and a Toymotor out of where the Ssingsong cruised thru.
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Post by GO30 on Jan 16, 2024 10:18:23 GMT 12
Why is the Toyota range so popular in NZ is a question you might want to ask yourself? Price puts me right off,no idea how they can justify it. Reliability and retained value, altho they are not perfect, the 3.0L diesel fitted to previous model Hiluxes and Prado's have more than their share of problems. We had near on 200 Hiluxes on the motorway project, not many mechanical issues but the local panel beaters were kept busy , lost one due to it having a swim when idiot driver tried to cross the flooded Falls Rd floodway and went off the edge. Ask any 3.2 Ranger owner what they think about Ford if they did not catch the endemic EGR cooler failure between 80-100k and they hydrauliced their engine thanks to coolant entering the combustion chambers. Alot of issues with the new 10speed auto's and the "new" V6's have a rather chequered past in their installation in Disco's/RR's/Territories amongst others (The "Lion" V6 engine series is a JV between Ford and Peugoet) My local mechanic said his choice of the current utes out there is the Isuzu DMAX/Mazda BT.... The pricing of Toymotor/Isuzu/Fraud/Maxda are total bullshit for what you get. You are paying a LOT for the badge.
I did a head to head with the latests Isuzu only last week, a up there a bit LS-M model twin cab diesel. For only 25k more than I paid for my Ssingsong I can get no cooling seats, no 360 camera, only 50% of the wheels using modern braking systems, a smaller tray, a Japanese drive as opposed to a Euro drive, no off road rated suspension, no bull/nudge bars, no towbar, no 4x4 off road mags and tyres, only leg room for short arses in the back and less other things that my Ssingsong has, most of which is standard fit.
The difference between what you get for a main stream known brand names and then for a secondary brand name was stark and huge. As a FYI, the exact same applies to tractors .
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EV farce
Jan 17, 2024 10:19:14 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jan 17, 2024 10:19:14 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Jan 17, 2024 12:15:01 GMT 12
somewhat ironic that EV's are supposed to "save" the climate, yet the climate is giving them a real hiding. The graph in the link is about what I expected, so in NZ terms, EV batteries ok in most of coastal NZ, but inland in the Sth Is are going to suffer. At the other extreme you do not see many EV's in the hot parts of Australia and I ould expect they would be very scarce in the Middle East  |
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Post by DuckMaster on Jan 17, 2024 21:40:08 GMT 12
And here it comes, RUCs for everyone...
What we're committing to in the National-ACT coalition agreement, we'll be moving all vehicles to road user charges. So it doesn't matter what type of fuel you're using - whether that's petrol, diesel, electricity, you've got a plug in hybrid - you'll pay the same amount based on the number of kilometres you use of the road.
"Rather than based on the fuel consumption you have or the type of fuel that you use".
About time!
I read today that the RUC charges are more than what most petrol efficient owners currently pay in excise tax...
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Post by GO30 on Jan 18, 2024 9:26:57 GMT 12
Agree, about time.
RUC is 0.076c a kilometre.
A dirty workout shows a 2001 Corolla ICE pays 0.0688c per km in tax via the pump, based on manufactures consumption rates.
Note The pump tax includes more than just excise like ACC, some watchdog tax and the country wide local authority tax. I did not include the extra Auckland only fuel tax.
So they maybe right Ducky but only if you use less fuel than the 2001 Corrola, if you use more then you are probably on a win.
But as EV owners are so righteous and wonderful people saving the plant I'm sure they will have no problem at all paying tier fair share of the road they use costs. (cheek now sore from tongue)
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EV farce
Jan 18, 2024 11:45:37 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Jan 18, 2024 11:45:37 GMT 12
They already pay extra for the car, I'm sure they will be happy to pay extra tax to really appease their appetite for virtue signaling.
Nice that the money is going to a far right wing extremist coalition hell bent on mining and oil exploration.
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Post by GO30 on Feb 6, 2024 11:27:48 GMT 12
Everything is pointing to a massive decrease in EV sales after the rebate has been canned.
That suggests the purchasers were mostly in it for the coin not environmental reasons.
Last month ute sales sky rocketed. Fraud sold twice as many of the Rangers as Toymotor sold Hilux. For the life of my I can not understand why you'd buy a Ranger that still uses 1950 break systems, amongst lacking such other new technologies.
Suzuki is bitching that even their tiniest car which is very efficient is getting pinged a few hundy for being too dirty under the current levels but next change coming in the rules will make a Suzuki Swift as evil as a V8 Chevy Ute. Not hard to see why that has many thinking WTF?
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Post by harrytom on Feb 6, 2024 11:49:44 GMT 12
France has increased parking fees for SUV in paris,$32 per hr Dont want that type of vehicle in the cities apparently.
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Post by Cantab on Feb 15, 2024 16:51:10 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Feb 15, 2024 19:56:07 GMT 12
OK so why do I see pure blank in Cantabs post but when I quote it I see something Twitter?
Which then disappears again when I post my post
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Post by em on Feb 16, 2024 5:59:54 GMT 12
OK so why do I see pure blank in Cantabs post but when I quote it I see something Twitter?
Which then disappears again when I post my post
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, lost one due to it having a swim when idiot driver tried to cross the flooded Falls Rd floodway and went off the edge.
