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Post by sabre on Aug 9, 2022 6:55:48 GMT 12
This will happen here just about pre election to time! Timing is everything! Bye bye stab, horse, Stal,-cinda Yeah dunno , we have heaps of open country , Netherlands have feck all . Met a journeyman carpenter from there a few years back he had never done a new build over there . Reckoned there’s no room left to build a new freestanding house you have to buy a shitter a do it up . Cant see our Govt scheming to steal farms …developers maybe , but they will buy them not steal them and then only the flat ones on city fringes . There is a massive amount of "environmental" compliance framework and legislation being established now. Farmers are being overwelmed with the sheer volume of new regulations. It won't be long before the state start turning the screws and driving down economic viability. It is the MO of the UN agenda 2030 and there is no way our dear leader will let our food producers off the hook. Best be ready to start supporting our farmers when they hit the wall or start aquiring a taste for bugs. beeflambnz.com/news-views/blnz-calls-government-slow-down-its-tsunami-environmental-policy-reforms |
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Post by sabre on Aug 9, 2022 6:58:53 GMT 12
Ps Luxon isn't going to be our saviour. There is no doubt in my mind that he will continue to support the WEF/UN agenda.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Aug 9, 2022 8:22:51 GMT 12
ACT may,just may,be able to bring Luxon/ Nats into line. NZ has to kick this cc thing. Even if it's got a modicom of truth to it,which I doubt,compliance isn't going to make a blind bit of difference and it will break NZ. NZ should just give lip service like the major players do.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Aug 9, 2022 8:23:42 GMT 12
But that won't help the bimbo's job at the UN
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Post by ComfortZone on Aug 9, 2022 8:38:07 GMT 12
ACT may,just may,be able to bring Luxon/ Nats into line. NZ has to kick this cc thing. Even if it's got a modicom of truth to it,which I doubt,compliance isn't going to make a blind bit of difference and it will break NZ. NZ should just give lip service like the major players do. Don't forget the Paris climate agreement says countries shall not take any climate mitigation actions that impact on food production. ccafs.cgiar.org/news/paris-climate-agreement-unlocks-opportunities-food-and-farmingPutting aside views for and against the Paris climate fest NZ has met its obligation by having an emissions trading scheme in place. All the rest of the nonsense being pushed by the government is sabotaging our country. |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 18, 2022 18:21:37 GMT 12
A lot of Kiwi farmers are pretty pissed off with the constant barrage of bullshit dished up to them too, but i worry they (we) aren't as motivated (or militant) as we need to be to fend off this barrage... I wish the European farmers success. It'll be sad for NZ if/when one of our much needed primary income earners also falls victim to the many agendas in play Aren't they just.
Has anyone from anywhere spoken to you about your place, how you operate it, what you've done or not around CC or anything like that?
Like Political opinion polls I can't find a single soul who any of the blaa blaa blaa spouting faces has spoken to in any form.
I did get asked by a hot chick (the only reason I stopped) at the markets the other day, a organisation linked to Greenpeace from what I could gather, what price per tonne would I be happy paying for my herds farts. I replied "We have set aside a significant sum to plant 1000 big trees and clean/replant all the waterways on the property. Whatever carbon costs come at us will have to come from that sum", which is true. Interestingly she replied 'That's a common comment I'm being told'.
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Post by sabre on Aug 27, 2022 13:49:12 GMT 12
A group of sheep and beef farmers published an open letter in Farmers Weekly calling out He waka eke noa and industry leaders. The UN agenda is grinding away in the background and NZ will not be immune to the economic and societal carnage their policies will create. Page 13 www.farmersweekly.co.nz/virtual-publication/ |
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Post by jim on Aug 27, 2022 18:17:57 GMT 12
Enjoy your roast lamb while you can people - in my relatively small group of farming contacts i know of hundreds of hectares of once productive land that has now got pine seedlings instead of Perendales. In this case a syndicate of investors bought the property and are gleefully looking forward to their first carbon credits which are currently giving an income (for pine plantations) around 4 times more than drystock income. so the big industries pay their carbon tax and pass the cost onto the consumers, while the syndicate guys sit back with their new found wealth. all the while New Zealand's export income falters and we start squabbling over an anaemic imported lamb shank...
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Post by fish on Aug 27, 2022 18:55:57 GMT 12
Enjoy your roast lamb while you can people - in my relatively small group of farming contacts i know of hundreds of hectares of once productive land that has now got pine seedlings instead of Perendales. In this case a syndicate of investors bought the property and are gleefully looking forward to their first carbon credits which are currently giving an income (for pine plantations) around 4 times more than drystock income. so the big industries pay their carbon tax and pass the cost onto the consumers, while the syndicate guys sit back with their new found wealth. all the while New Zealand's export income falters and we start squabbling over an anaemic imported lamb shank... I'm having a bit of roast lamb tonight. With rosemary. The smell is wafting through the house and I'm getting a bit hungry. But are you serious? Growing carbon credits is 4 times more profitable than growing things we can eat? Having had a previous career in the meat works and primary products manufacturing, that is really concerning to hear. Every time I see a story about flooding in the MSM, there is usually a picture of forestry slash rammed under a bridge, a or a gargantuan slip that has let go in an area that wasn't that long ago harvested. I think the Greens need to be careful what they wish for in terms of environmental outcomes with all this pine planting carry-on. |
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Post by sabre on Aug 27, 2022 19:07:50 GMT 12
The un-elected UN/WEF/elites want us eating insects whether we like it or not. This is not something we get to vote on. "Getting rid of animal-sourced food would make a considerable difference: the UN found that doing so would lower our greenhouse-gas emissions to a third of their current level by 2050. Earlier this year, The Economist published an analysis showing that if we cut meat out of our diets, it would free up three-quarters of the world’s farmland." www.thestar.com/business/mars/2022/08/02/protein-shakeup-are-crickets-and-lab-grown-meat-the-future-of-food.html |
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Post by sabre on Aug 27, 2022 19:12:05 GMT 12
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Post by jim on Aug 27, 2022 20:09:45 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Aug 28, 2022 9:01:46 GMT 12
Trouble is, the environment doesn’t seem to have got that memo. |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 28, 2022 9:38:03 GMT 12
The un-elected UN/WEF/elites want us eating insects whether we like it or not. This is not something we get to vote on. Hey don't go dissing the insects idea. When prepared properly they are as good ......actually as I write this I was going to say a good steak but then I'm not sure that's right. While I have had some stunner steaks I've also has a couple of stunner incest dishes. I think I'm going to say 'equally as good as a bloody good steak', noting both do have to be prepared properly or they are just shit.
Jim is 100% correct. Pine trees are increasingly being planted around here and lots of very productive healthy land that was banging out very low impact crops and stock is now destined to be trashed and acidified inside 2 decades. What's more the big city coin, and a LOT of international coin, is driving prices up so budding farmers can't get a start.
I'm getting paid, by you, to do what we were going to do anyway. Most of the time with things like this we don't take what's on offer, like covid we didn't take the business grants if if they only covered a weeks rent at best, but bugger me there is so much coin on offer and it's another throw it in the air hoping some landed wisely scheme we thought bugger it, that buys us a brand new tractor. But our plantings are useful very long term and productive during that term plus they don't fuck the land like pines. So we'll shortly have what we now call double trees i.e. they pay us by fruiting and now they pay us for just being a tree.
That's cause NZ agriculture has no need to send any memos. The records clearly show net methane by NZ agriculture as a whole has been on the decrease for a long time, which means NZ agriculture blitzed thru 'methane zero' some decades ago. Sure there is bad shit going on in agriculture but as a whole agriculture is emitting nothing like what most of the claims are. The claims are like the Greens who see regard all men as racists or like me who regards all Greens as raving whackjobs who are only stealing sane peoples oxygen.
Besides CC is a crock of pooh. Look at Bill Gate, Leonardo De whotsit, All Gore, Greta Thundergob and many more at the leading edge of the CC screaming, all fly in private jets between their many mansions and superboats. Also suss who owns a LOT of the technologies being promoted to save the planet, it's the same names. 1 + 1 = dodgy as
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Post by sabre on Aug 28, 2022 12:19:46 GMT 12
The un-elected UN/WEF/elites want us eating insects whether we like it or not. This is not something we get to vote on. Hey don't go dissing the insects idea. I'm not dissing the insect idea. I'm sure they have their place and if people want to eat them go for gold. What I am dissing is the fact that the agricultural sector is being manipulated by a group of unelected elites without any diologue or debate with the industries that will be destroyed by their idealist agendas. |
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