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Post by harrytom on Aug 28, 2024 17:18:15 GMT 12
But wait, there's more! (of course there is more with ze gangreenz, I'm really starting to love them...!! ) www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/08/tana_vs_greens.html This looks like Darlene Tana is seeking an injunction to stop the Greens from using the waka jumping law to remove her as an MP.
It will be a very interesting case, as there will be arguments over how you determine if proportionality is upset. However I would be very surprised if a judge tries to second guess the decision of a party caucus on the issue, so I do not expect Tana will prevail.
It is possible though she could gain an interim injunction, so the law can’t be triggered until there is a hearing on the merits.Seems simple to me. I get a seat due to being on party list.I fucked up and party dumps me.No more gravy train.Off to the real world for a job.
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Post by fish on Aug 28, 2024 18:18:39 GMT 12
I don't care at all about this Greens / Tana stuff. What really worries me is that it is physically possible for these people, the Greens, to be part of a government that has control of my country.
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Post by eri on Aug 29, 2024 16:19:38 GMT 12
yup, full-blown
bankrupting socialism
is only a few years
and a few dishonest bribes to electorate away
you have been warned
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Post by ComfortZone on Aug 30, 2024 8:34:54 GMT 12
from Heather duplicitous Allan on Darleen Tana Is anyone else getting the feeling the Greens have underestimated just how far Darleen Tana will go to to mess with them? I feel like they might have bit off a bit much with this one. Because so far - it’s 2-nil to Darleen. She won the first round when she refused to quit Parliament. The Greens clearly thought that after they’d finished the report she’d just slink off in shame - but she refused to do that. And she’s just won the second round today by forcing the party to cancel that meeting they were planning to have on Sunday where they were going to plot kicking her out of Parliament. I'm actually impressed - this woman has got way more gumption than any of us thought. And who knows where it goes from here? Because this is clearly not the end, from where I'm sitting there are at least two more rounds to come. They're going to go to court in two weeks, that's another round - and then they'll have to actually, eventually trigger the waka-jumping law and kick her out. By now, they must be dreading what she pulls out next. I know I'm running against the grain on this one - but good on her. I'm enjoying watching her make them squirm. Don't get me wrong, I'm not on her side, she’s weird - but the Greens deserve this. They chose her. They were very happy to have Darleen on their list for the election, weren't they? She was a nice married Māori lady from Auckland Central who owned a small business, she was someone nice people in Auckland Central who had money and small businesses could identify with and vote for. They were happy to have her then - but they clearly didn't do the checks on her like they didn't do with a whole lot of other Green MPs who've since gone rogue.
They've got to live with their choices - and the big old fight one of their choices is bringing to them.
This will need a kingsize bucket of organic vegan popcorn before it is over
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Post by muzled on Aug 30, 2024 8:53:38 GMT 12
from Heather duplicitous Allan on Darleen Tana Is anyone else getting the feeling the Greens have underestimated just how far Darleen Tana will go to to mess with them? I feel like they might have bit off a bit much with this one. Because so far - it’s 2-nil to Darleen. She won the first round when she refused to quit Parliament. The Greens clearly thought that after they’d finished the report she’d just slink off in shame - but she refused to do that. And she’s just won the second round today by forcing the party to cancel that meeting they were planning to have on Sunday where they were going to plot kicking her out of Parliament. I'm actually impressed - this woman has got way more gumption than any of us thought. And who knows where it goes from here? Because this is clearly not the end, from where I'm sitting there are at least two more rounds to come. They're going to go to court in two weeks, that's another round - and then they'll have to actually, eventually trigger the waka-jumping law and kick her out. By now, they must be dreading what she pulls out next. I know I'm running against the grain on this one - but good on her. I'm enjoying watching her make them squirm. Don't get me wrong, I'm not on her side, she’s weird - but the Greens deserve this. They chose her. They were very happy to have Darleen on their list for the election, weren't they? She was a nice married Māori lady from Auckland Central who owned a small business, she was someone nice people in Auckland Central who had money and small businesses could identify with and vote for. They were happy to have her then - but they clearly didn't do the checks on her like they didn't do with a whole lot of other Green MPs who've since gone rogue.
They've got to live with their choices - and the big old fight one of their choices is bringing to them.
This will need a kingsize bucket of organic vegan popcorn before it is over It's absolute gold isn't it! I'm loving every single second of it, and I have to say, I quite like that darling Darleen hasn't quit for the reasons mentioned above. But mainly I'm ecstatic because this whole fiasco shows just how unelectable the gangrenes really are. The only way it could possibly be better is if it was closer to the next election. My pick is it will lead to a law change. If you are a list mp then you can get turfed out if you bring the party into disrepute/break the law etc etc. If you're voted in by the people, then you get to stay until the next election when the people get their say.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Aug 30, 2024 11:39:22 GMT 12
As should be "list members" get the boot from the party and parliament.
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Post by muzled on Sept 19, 2024 11:46:28 GMT 12
Yes I know she's not an official gangreen but oh she fits the bill so beautifully. Single, earns nigh on $200K and has to sell her car coz times are tough. At least she's not in charge of running a city... www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/09/17/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-now-walks-to-work-after-selling-car-to-pay-bills/Whanau said she was also “feeling the crunch” in an interview with Newstalk ZB’s Nick Mills about the mood of Wellington in the cost of living crisis.
“We are feeling a bit low at the moment, we’ve been hit by a number of things. Obviously, the economic downturn, public service cuts, the cost of living, people aren’t spending money and that has shown up in closures and whatnot.
When Mills asked Whanau if she “actually” feels the economic challenges, she acknowledged her privilege.
“I don’t want to downplay the privilege that I have right? I am the mayor of the city I have a house and i’m very thankful for that.
“However I’ve just sold my car recently to help pay the bills and I walk to work again. My mortgage rates have doubled in the last few years. So I’m feeling the crunch as well but I also acknowledge the privilege I have.”
Tory Whanau’s salary increased 3.7% to $189,000 in July.
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Post by fish on Sept 19, 2024 12:11:27 GMT 12
Yes I know she's not an official gangreen but oh she fits the bill so beautifully. Single, earns nigh on $200K and has to sell her car coz times are tough. At least she's not in charge of running a city... www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/09/17/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-now-walks-to-work-after-selling-car-to-pay-bills/Whanau said she was also “feeling the crunch” in an interview with Newstalk ZB’s Nick Mills about the mood of Wellington in the cost of living crisis.
“We are feeling a bit low at the moment, we’ve been hit by a number of things. Obviously, the economic downturn, public service cuts, the cost of living, people aren’t spending money and that has shown up in closures and whatnot.
When Mills asked Whanau if she “actually” feels the economic challenges, she acknowledged her privilege.
“I don’t want to downplay the privilege that I have right? I am the mayor of the city I have a house and i’m very thankful for that.
“However I’ve just sold my car recently to help pay the bills and I walk to work again. My mortgage rates have doubled in the last few years. So I’m feeling the crunch as well but I also acknowledge the privilege I have.”
Tory Whanau’s salary increased 3.7% to $189,000 in July.
Oh she is a fully fledged Green alright. Was a Green party staffer before she was made Mayor. Now, if you think she is bad at managing money, she won lotto in 2002, $1.4million. How she has a mortgage now, if she won enough to buy 3 comfortable houses 2 decades ago is completely beyond me.
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Post by chariot on Sept 19, 2024 12:15:11 GMT 12
I read somewhere yesterday that she won $1.4m on Lotto a couple of years ago. Obviously needs to go to a budgeting service. While she's there she can get them to sort Wellingtons problems as well.
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Post by ComfortZone on Sept 19, 2024 13:16:10 GMT 12
Yes I know she's not an official gangreen but oh she fits the bill so beautifully. Single, earns nigh on $200K and has to sell her car coz times are tough. At least she's not in charge of running a city... www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/09/17/wellington-mayor-tory-whanau-now-walks-to-work-after-selling-car-to-pay-bills/Whanau said she was also “feeling the crunch” in an interview with Newstalk ZB’s Nick Mills about the mood of Wellington in the cost of living crisis.
“We are feeling a bit low at the moment, we’ve been hit by a number of things. Obviously, the economic downturn, public service cuts, the cost of living, people aren’t spending money and that has shown up in closures and whatnot.
When Mills asked Whanau if she “actually” feels the economic challenges, she acknowledged her privilege.
“I don’t want to downplay the privilege that I have right? I am the mayor of the city I have a house and i’m very thankful for that.
“However I’ve just sold my car recently to help pay the bills and I walk to work again. My mortgage rates have doubled in the last few years. So I’m feeling the crunch as well but I also acknowledge the privilege I have.”
Tory Whanau’s salary increased 3.7% to $189,000 in July.
Oh she is a fully fledged Green alright. Was a Green party staffer before she was made Mayor. Now, if you think she is bad at managing money, she won lotto in 2002, $1.4million. How she has a mortgage now, if she won enough to buy 3 comfortable houses 2 decades ago is completely beyond me. I read she was in her 20's when she won, paid off her parents mortgage and all the extended family who suddenly appeared out of the bushes with their hands out, then went on a spendup herself, big OE etc, so not alot left at the end. Still,on a $190k pa she will be living very comfortably, doesn't need a car at present as council provides one which will no doubt include private use, probably has a raft of taxi vouchers for when she is too pissed to drive home.
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