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Post by chariot on Oct 18, 2024 8:21:46 GMT 12
It staggers me how people can believe this shit. Of no use to a modern society what so ever.
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Post by GO30 on Oct 18, 2024 9:08:34 GMT 12
Green Party really need to change their name, or maybe "green" as in "new and naïve" now fits? " collective Indigenous dreaming" sounds like a solid policy development platform Like Chloe, really has nothing to contribute to a Government, no ability to lead NZ into a prosperous healthy sustainable future, nor any desire to.That's the key right there. They have no desire to lead the country, just a fecking huge one to change it dramatically whether the country wants it or not.
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Post by eri on Oct 18, 2024 9:44:41 GMT 12
just like labour
just like the maori party
the 3 of them are really just socialist protest parties that have no ability to run the country successfully at all
their idea of governing is just to grow the public service, raise taxes, borrow more, spend more
and even after presiding over 6 years of worsening health, education and crime outcomes they don't have enough insight to stop wrecking everything they touch
their policies to lift the nation's productivity, so we can all afford to live 1st world lifestyles they crazily think are our birthright, are laughable
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Post by muzled on Oct 21, 2024 7:00:08 GMT 12
So Dame Chloe has confirmed it's ok to use rules you vociferously oppose as long as they suit you and Darleen Tana has been given the arse. And Ghahrament is appealing the fact she got caught, good to see crown law grow a pair and call her out. It will be hilarious if she (garment) fails. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/ghahraman_appeals.htmlThrough her lawyer Annabel Cresswell, Ghahraman appealed the convictions at the Auckland High Court on Monday.
Cresswell told Justice Geoffrey Venning the convictions may impact Ghahraman’s June 2024 job application at the International Criminal Court (ICC).
People cannot work for the ICC if they have been convicted of serious criminal offending, Cresswell said, however it was was unclear if Ghahraman’s offending was serious enough for this to be a barrier.
This is a very weak argument. Ghahraman is merely an applicant for a job. She is not stated token be in the running for it, or short-listed yet alone preferred. And even if she was, the conviction is unlikely to be regarded as serious offending. Auckland’s Crown Solicitor Alysha McClintock, acting on behalf of the police, argued any impacts on Ghahraman’s future employment and mental health were consequences of the offending itself, not the convictions.
McClintock said it was unclear whether the offending would impact Ghahraman’s application to work for the ICC, and that Cresswell had failed to provide evidence regarding the status of the application or whether it was still being pursued.
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 21, 2024 7:50:52 GMT 12
McClintock said it was unclear whether the offending would impact Ghahraman’s application to work for the ICC, and that Cresswell had failed to provide evidence regarding the status of the application or whether it was still being pursued.
You would think being a convicted criminal would enhance her application   |
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 22, 2024 7:37:27 GMT 12
Good - for once the justice system works www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/crime/ex-green-mp-golriz-ghahraman-loses-appeal-for-9k-shoplifting-spree-conviction-to-stand/opens Golriz Ghahraman’s second bid to avoid a conviction for last year’s $9000 shoplifting spree has failed.
High Court Justice Geoffrey Venning upheld the district court’s decision, stating the conviction’s consequences were not disproportionate.
Ghahraman’s defence cited mental health issues, but the Crown argued the offending showed premeditation.
A second bid by former Green Party MP Golriz Ghahraman to avoid a conviction for last year’s nearly $9000 shoplifting spree has failed.
Ghahraman, a lawyer who formerly served as the Greens’ justice spokeswoman, was convicted in June and fined $1600 rather than being ordered to serve a custodial or supervision sentence. But in the Auckland District Court, Judge June Jelas denied her request for a discharge without conviction, which was the basis for an appeal heard last week in the High Court at Auckland.
In a judgment released this morning, High Court Justice Geoffrey Venning said “the consequences of conviction cannot be said to be ‘out of all proportion’ to the gravity of offending in this case” – meaning there was no error in the district court decision. Ghahraman’s conviction decreased the odds of being allowed to revive her legal career after a seven-year hiatus prompted by her ascension to Parliament. |
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Post by muzled on Oct 22, 2024 8:00:21 GMT 12
Good - for once the justice system works
In a judgment released this morning, High Court Justice Geoffrey Venning said “the consequences of conviction cannot be said to be ‘out of all proportion’ to the gravity of offending in this case” – meaning there was no error in the district court decision. Ghahraman’s conviction decreased the odds of being allowed to revive her legal career after a seven-year hiatus prompted by her ascension to Parliament.My guess is monsieur Venning has enough experience in law to see right through her appeal to know that the conviction for a low level crime like shop lifting isn't enough to stop her legal career in it's tracks? |
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 22, 2024 8:08:38 GMT 12
Good - for once the justice system works
In a judgment released this morning, High Court Justice Geoffrey Venning said “the consequences of conviction cannot be said to be ‘out of all proportion’ to the gravity of offending in this case” – meaning there was no error in the district court decision. Ghahraman’s conviction decreased the odds of being allowed to revive her legal career after a seven-year hiatus prompted by her ascension to Parliament.My guess is monsieur Venning has enough experience in law to see right through her appeal to know that the conviction for a low level crime like shop lifting isn't enough to stop her legal career in it's tracks? Yeah, it will be interesting to see the linguistic cartwheels the wokey/PC Law Society indulges in to justify issuing her a practicing certificate in spite of the conviction |
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Post by muzled on Oct 22, 2024 11:46:53 GMT 12
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Post by muzled on Oct 22, 2024 14:13:32 GMT 12
So basically she wanted the conviction quashed so it was easier for her to swan about the world burning dinosaur juice. theplatform.kiwi/podcasts/episode/marie-dyhrberg-on-why-golriz-ghahramans-shoplifting-appeal-was-rejectedThe law society looks at any convictions but they won't stop her practicing law as long as she can explain to the law society that she has redeemed herself/stopped stealing shit (or at least getting caught)/is no longer at risk of any future offending. She can't practice at the international criminal court until she has a practicing certificate here. She can still work there as a clarke etc. Even Marie Dhyrberg agrees the decision was correct. (she's normally very much on the defendants side) |
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 22, 2024 21:34:18 GMT 12
Tana given her final marching orders www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/tana_gone.htmlIn the NZ Gazette today:
Under section 134(1) of the Electoral Act 1993, I, Gerard Anthony Brownlee, Speaker of the House of Representatives, give notice that the seat of Darleen Tana has become vacant by reason of her ceasing to be a parliamentary member of the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand, the parliamentary leaders of that party having delivered to me in accordance with section 55A(3)(b) of the Act a written notice that complies with section 55C of the Act.
Her replacement Doyle, who is in their early 30s and uses they/he/ia pronouns, describes themself as proudly takatāpui (queer) and whaikaha (disabled).
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Post by muzled on Oct 23, 2024 7:02:45 GMT 12
She must be gutted at having her snout removed from the trough!
Hopefully she'll end up paying some taxes now rather than living off other peoples taxes.
Peak hypocrisy from Dame Chloe, I hope she's reminded of it when she opposes something else she doesn't like.
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Post by muzled on Oct 23, 2024 7:08:38 GMT 12
I can't help but snigger at this as well. Be interesting to see how they vote at the next election, there are a lot of raging left wingers in that city. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/brown_appoints_observer_to_wellington_city_council.htmlWellingtonians voted for a Labour/Green Council and WCC proved a great example of how that works in practice. Of the Council of 16, six are current or former Greens, and four are Labour. One is also former Te Pati Maori, so they are a living example of how well those three parties can do at governing. |
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Post by GO30 on Oct 23, 2024 8:41:24 GMT 12
I've pondered long and hard on the Waka Jumping bill. I think it is very dangerous and needs to go.
It has removed the public representatives by handing the power to unelected randoms. It also allows political parties to be sloppy and fuckwits.
The Greens should not have been allowed to dump a poor decision.
But it has shown no matter what they say, the professional politition will priorities their best interests over those of the public.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Oct 23, 2024 8:59:24 GMT 12
Tana given her final marching orders www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/10/tana_gone.htmlIn the NZ Gazette today:
Under section 134(1) of the Electoral Act 1993, I, Gerard Anthony Brownlee, Speaker of the House of Representatives, give notice that the seat of Darleen Tana has become vacant by reason of her ceasing to be a parliamentary member of the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand, the parliamentary leaders of that party having delivered to me in accordance with section 55A(3)(b) of the Act a written notice that complies with section 55C of the Act.
Her replacement Doyle, who is in their early 30s and uses they/he/ia pronouns, describes themself as proudly takatāpui (queer) and whaikaha (disabled).
At least the green party is a party off equal opportunities except for "pale,stale people. |
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