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Post by muzled on Aug 23, 2024 13:27:09 GMT 12
if anymore proof is needed that lunatics are running the asylum Jeesus wept, next level fuckwittery! I'm trying to picture the wonk that was doing the interview. Surely not a sworn officer? |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 23, 2024 14:38:58 GMT 12
Great timing on that.
I'm expecting to get bitched at any moment by them for not registering a new shotty...even thought it is in 2 registers already, one of which they can pull one on on their screen in seconds.
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Post by fish on Aug 23, 2024 16:05:25 GMT 12
if anymore proof is needed that lunatics are running the asylum The Officer's reply was very good. I do like how he was using referencing. |
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Post by GO30 on Aug 31, 2024 15:06:46 GMT 12
Yesterday ask the Govt to let me rejig then run the Gun Register.
I can do it faster, cleaner, far more securely and at a fraction of the current cost.
But in doing so I doubt the Govt could cope with that efficiency so I thought why bother but then I remembered the Minister in charge is ACT so just maybe and fired it in.
This could be interesting.
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Post by ComfortZone on Sept 10, 2024 11:03:09 GMT 12
Cam Slater on the cluster that is the new gun register goodoil.news/the-gun-register-is-going-to-fail/concludes The gun register will fail because the police don’t want to give up control: they bullshit us all by saying TPP aren’t police, yet they live in police stations, they have sworn officers working there, it’s a business unit of the Police and they all talk to each other and share information.
Moreover they are fighting a rear-guard action to retain it under their control and instead of having just one register are actually keeping duplicate information in two separate databases.
It isn’t working now and it is only going to get worse.
The next thing I am going to do is use the Privacy Act to obtain from police AND TPP who has accessed my records and what their QID numbers are for last weekend. Because I am going to get to the bottom of who breached my privacy.
My Canadian friends tell me what a cluster the failed gun register was in Canada, seems NZ is going right down the same road learning nothing.
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Post by GO30 on Sept 10, 2024 13:51:20 GMT 12
They want me to listen to a privacy statement, I said why bother as their bosses, the NZ Govt, have not only put all my personal details on the web they sell them to companies worldwide ....and in the last few days we hear they just give then to Twatbook etc, so I said no need, I have no privacy.
The response was - 'Please do it or we could lose our jobs'.
I think the registry will survive but at very huge dollar cost and will never be what they are trying to sell it as. When Luxon finally admits he's a stooge for TPM and Willie Jackson is crowned the next 'Komatua of NZ', all the pretence NZ is a democracy will have finally gone by then, he'll make sure the Registry stays but in name only to placate the shallow of thought but also make sure Labour voters like, Mr Tang and his mates, aren't too affected by it.
In my offering to run the Registry we'd save NZ millions of dollars and have a far more secure system than is currently in place. I can easily remove one of the key issues many have serious issues with. But it appears they don't want that which leads me to thinking 'Why, do have an ulterior motive?'
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Post by fish on Oct 13, 2024 13:27:17 GMT 12
Even Red Radio saying Dame Jacinda is wrong on gun control... Gun crime on the rise in Auckland, majority of offences involve illegally owned firearms Gun crime is up in Auckland, and police data shows illegally owned guns are the problem. Data provided to RNZ through the Official Information Act shows there were 879 firearms offences committed across Auckland in the first six months of this year, up 28 from the same time in 2023. Only 18 of those offences were carried out by people with an active firearms licence.www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/530601/gun-crime-on-the-rise-in-auckland-majority-of-offences-involve-illegally-owned-firearms |
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Post by mihit on Oct 13, 2024 15:56:32 GMT 12
What? you mean the mongrel mob, after telling the police to f*ck off, did not then register their illegal firearms or hand them over???
Who could possibly have seen that coming.
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Post by mihit on Oct 13, 2024 16:17:23 GMT 12
I am surprised to see that "half of their investigations are diversion from a license holder"
I doubt it's true. That would be go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200. And lose all your lawfully held guns. I have not heard of any court cases to that effect, and I'm sure the police would make a big media fuss about it if it was the case.
And that would still mean that 50% are being illegally smuggled in.
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Post by mihit on Oct 13, 2024 16:26:55 GMT 12
That picture with the article is a bit misleading. It doesn't say why they were seized or if they were returned after. Looks like someone with B and E endorsements. And a .50cal.
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 23, 2024 8:26:37 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Oct 25, 2024 15:44:08 GMT 12
Yeah Canada's registry plans have gone well off the rails and taken massive amounts of taxpayers coin with it.
I've just proposed to the Minister they introduce a Firearms Users license. As everyone is more twitchy than a Green party supporter I know a few who like to hunt very occasionally with mates are concerned if they get pinged they will be in the pooh big time. They don't want to own a gun but do want to shoot using mates weapons. But to get a license you now have to have a safe, even if you have no weapons or planning on getting any. It's somewhat onerous, which I don't mind, but it is making want to be honest and do the right thing punters So I proposed they bring in a class of license that is pretty much the same as usual but does not allow purchase or owning a weapon. That way people get the training and get to use weapons legally but without the hassle/palava/nervousness of owning one.
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Post by harrytom on Oct 25, 2024 16:56:40 GMT 12
Yeah Canada's registry plans have gone well off the rails and taken massive amounts of taxpayers coin with it. I've just proposed to the Minister they introduce a Firearms Users license. As everyone is more twitchy than a Green party supporter I know a few who like to hunt very occasionally with mates are concerned if they get pinged they will be in the pooh big time. They don't want to own a gun but do want to shoot using mates weapons. But to get a license you now have to have a safe, even if you have no weapons or planning on getting any. It's somewhat onerous, which I don't mind, but it is making want to be honest and do the right thing punters So I proposed they bring in a class of license that is pretty much the same as usual but does not allow purchase or owning a weapon. That way people get the training and get to use weapons legally but without the hassle/palava/nervousness of owning one. So how do these hunting trip companies get on,surely the clients dont need a licence if supervised? I remember back in 1983 in aussie,no licence but a shooters licence $10 for life,buy a rifle in the pub,pay the cops $10 and away you went. Brought a kreka? in the woolpack and away I went blasting rabbits a hr later. Then along come a dick in tasmania(kiwi) fucked it up and licence required |
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Post by mihit on Oct 25, 2024 17:12:12 GMT 12
Yeah Canada's registry plans have gone well off the rails and taken massive amounts of taxpayers coin with it. I've just proposed to the Minister they introduce a Firearms Users license. As everyone is more twitchy than a Green party supporter I know a few who like to hunt very occasionally with mates are concerned if they get pinged they will be in the pooh big time. They don't want to own a gun but do want to shoot using mates weapons. But to get a license you now have to have a safe, even if you have no weapons or planning on getting any. It's somewhat onerous, which I don't mind, but it is making want to be honest and do the right thing punters So I proposed they bring in a class of license that is pretty much the same as usual but does not allow purchase or owning a weapon. That way people get the training and get to use weapons legally but without the hassle/palava/nervousness of owning one. Was that Nicole? I think she's the best chance for sanity in that realm.
Canada's registry is only the latest and most obvious expensive failure. At no point in history, ever, and I mean EVER, has a firearm registry "worked" NZ govt scrapped the previous one sometime between WW2 and the Arms Act of '84.
And at no point in time have criminals bothered or been deterred by the legislature, so It only ever effects the inherently honest citizen.
You've always needed secure storage to hold a FAL, that's not new. (I'm not saying it's smart, there's definitely a case for your scenario) Before NZ's Port Arthur copy-paste, we were actually globally regarded as having some of the sanest FAL rules. The new 200-page questionaire with such stunners as "are you a terrorist" - this is a fucking joke. This is the dumbing-down.
I'm not sure your not-FAL FAL is the way forward. As far as I know, the new legislation has barely been tested at court, and I doubt the police are much keen to try, so your mates are probably safe there.
I would like to see NZ closer to the Swedish model. Every fit man of age is required to have, hold, and regularly train with a rifle. I would add women, shotguns and pistols, and start it in primary school. 3-gun and cowboy-action matches every weekend. Way more entertaining than bloody rugby.
Also "purchase or owning a weapon"?? Lets us keep it to firearms eh cos at age 15 I believe you can get a scratch-and-win license from New Zealand Driver Licencing LTD to pilot a weapon up to about 6 tonne, and if you kill people with it the penalties are usually negligible. This is often published as "the road toll" |
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Post by mihit on Oct 25, 2024 17:15:50 GMT 12
So how do these hunting trip companies get on,surely the clients dont need a licence if supervised? The former wording was something like "anyone may use a firearm under direct supervision - meaning the license holder has immediate access to control the firearm"
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