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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 10:11:31 GMT 12
Jacinda thinks buyers will pay a premium for the green beef. Pretty sure most people will buy the cheapest stuff. NZ importing beef from overseas to supply the locals, hard to believe, more likely soon though. The last leg she has to stand on for any hope in elections is the climate change story, true to form, she will fuck that up too. I'm starting to question if her job at the UN is still viable, even they can see the disaster she creates everywhere she points her policy stick. The prevailing wind at the UN is changing, the realities of Wokism are revealing themselves. I'm hoping they will use her and Trudeau as the fall guys and burn them. but AJ says there is no bad wokism. |
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2022 10:11:38 GMT 12
I'm bemused that everyone is focusing on the price of beef. This tax will hit dairy, you know, NZ's biggest single export earner...
NZ Dairy has always been a bulk commodity product. Think milk powders. Fonterra has been constantly criticised over the last decade for it's inability to pivot to niche or value add products. Not sure how green dairy fits into their established sales strategy of high volume and cheap.
In Britain, NZ lamb has always been the cheap option. Always. If you want a quality option you go for the locally grown British lamb. Less food miles, buy British, etc.
NZ's main market for beef is the US. We ship kilo-tonnes of the stuff to the US for burgers. The average American burger eater hasn't even heard of climate change, let alone give a fuck about it. Driving their 5.9l V8 pick-up truck to the drive through to get some single use polystyrene packaging with their super-sized burger and sugary carbonated drink.
We do send high value cuts (steak cuts) into Asia a fair bit. But we are talking LD3's, not TFE's. That is the little airfreight containers instead of twenty foot equivalent shipping containers. The high value stuff goes fresh...
And the irony? In the Asian markets we are actually competing against US grain feed beef. Our point of difference is grass fed and the flavour. We have a point of difference that we have happy cows out in a natural paddock, not up to their nuts in shit in a feed-lot (accept 5 star beef in South Canterbury, but they are a dedicated Wagyu finishing lot kind of thing).
Given that for beef, internationally we are competing against fed-lot animals, the PM has completely lost her marbles...
As an avowed strict carnivore, even I say fed-lots are bad for the environment. When I was in the industry, our sales guys would visit fed-lots in the US. They were beyond words how disgusting it was. This is what the greenies go on about. They equate NZ beef with the environmental impact and emissions of US beef, of which 98% of the greenie studies are based on.
They also visited US meat processors. Even they were shocked. In NZ, it is normal of boners to wear chain-mail aprons. In the US, the men (mexicans, of course) are pack in so tightly they have to wear chain-mail on their backs, so the guy behind them didn't stab them cutting through a side. The sales guys reckoned there would be three mexicans squeezed into the same space as one kiwi. And if they got injured, there was no compo. Just carried outside to the front gate. The injured would wait in the carpark for their mates to finish, and hope their mates would look after them. Puts ACC into perspective.
For anyone to say this tax will give our products a premium just defies reality.
So, who's protesting on Thursday? I'm currently thinking of just taking a sign and standing on the side of the road, so I don't have to take my environmentally friendly hybrid in a protest with working utes and tractors (I don't want to look out of place)...
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2022 10:20:46 GMT 12
Oh yeah, and NZ already imports substantial amounts of pork. Our pork industry is currently grappling with the regulations around pig welfare rules, sow crates and what-not. Plus high labour and operating costs. Overlaid with no protection from cheap offshore production with entirely different regulatory and environmental standards. Try getting a resource consent for a new piggery at the moment. Even better, try renewing your existing resource consent....
I made 3,500 christmas hams one year. All imported in a 40 foot container from Canada. Fraction of the cost of NZ legs...
Lets just chuck a tax on top of all of that. Buy-buy industry.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 11:09:13 GMT 12
Yip to much protectionism in NZ which is why everything is so expensive.. yet the NZ SUPPLIERS ARE MAKING HUGE PROFITS.
remember the potatoes from Spain bullshit a couple of years ago. We could have benefited greatly from cheaper potatoes about now!!; FFS import some competition for these greedy NZ growers and keep the inflation down!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 15:14:37 GMT 12
The Foodstuff group has been dropping Aussie beef here for yrs,helps out drought farmers??
Pork imported from China, Poland, Estonia, Denmark and Spain, as well as the US, Canada and Australia. While around 60% of the pork consumed in New Zealand comes from overseas, nearly 85% of cured pork like bacon and ham is imported.
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 25, 2022 12:13:31 GMT 12
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Post by jim on Oct 26, 2022 19:28:46 GMT 12
Possibly the most disturbing article i've seen here, all the dots line up too and we know we have many evil characters in play at the moment... if the Greens were actually Green they would be up in arms over this prospect. I guess the Kiwi way is to complain when it's too late
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 17, 2022 10:11:07 GMT 12
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Post by muzled on Nov 29, 2022 13:11:41 GMT 12
Shit o'dear, the Netherlands is actually making nulild seem ok! Who the fark has a nitrogen minister!!!
Netherlands to forcefully shut down 3,000 farms
To comply with the European Union’s radical climate laws, the Dutch government of World Economic Forum acolyte Mark Rutte will force up to 3,000 farms to shut down for good.
Farmers will be made an offer on their farms, which the government claims is “well over” market value.
According to nitrogen minister Christianne van der Wal, the government purchase will be compulsory.
“There is no better offer coming,” claimed van der Wal.
Recent EU nature preservation rules require member states to reduce emissions across sectors of the economy.
As one of Europe’s most prominent farming nations, half of the Netherlands’ emissions come from agricultural activity.
Rutte has warned that those who refuse to comply could face government force.
When the Dutch government announced a nitrogen fertilizer reduction mandate, the country saw nationwide protests from farmers.
Former agricultural minister resigned from his position as a result of the movement.
The Dutch farmer protests received international attention, with protests popping up in Canada in support of the uprising.
Rutte’s government policies have many observers concerned about the direction he is taking the country.
Earlier this month, the country’s finance minister Sigrid Kaag proposed a law to allow banks to spy on transactions of citizens which totaled more than €100.
Privacy watchdog Autoriteit Persoonsgegevens called the bill an unprecedented “surveillance of the Dutch” people.
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