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Post by Fogg on Jun 6, 2023 22:13:23 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Jun 6, 2023 22:15:45 GMT 12
On the up-side, at least the corruption across both local and central NZ govt is now so clear to see, hopefully even the everyday voting sheep will see it and rebel.
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Post by muzled on Jun 7, 2023 21:21:46 GMT 12
I love watching the minister of filth squirm! 12 times he was asked if he'd sold the shares. Surely he's goneburger. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2023/06/wood_vs_key_share_scandal_compared.htmlWood vs Key share scandal compared The Herald reports: The Prime Minister wasted no time in standing down Michael Wood as Transport Minister yesterday after the Herald revealed he owned $13,000 of Auckland Airport shares that he was told to sell “half a dozen times” since 2020. The Herald can also reveal Wood declined North Shore Aerodrome’s application for airport authority status while he owned shares in Auckland Airport, a potential competitor. The aerodrome is in the Whangaparāoa electorate and its MP, National’s Mark Mitchell, said the situation appeared “dodgy” and that Wood’s actions were a sackable offence. Chris Hipkins described Wood’s ownership of the stock while he was regulating the aviation industry as “not acceptable”. This revelation changes things for Wood. As a shareholder in Auckland Airport, he should have recused himself from making a decision on North Shore Aerodrome’s application for airport authority status. This revelation changes things from a potential conflict of interest to actually having made a Ministerial decision where he had a financial interest in the outcome. Now again I would say I don’t think that was his motivation. $13,000 of shares to someone on $250,000 a year is not a lot of money. But when John Key had some shares in Tranzrail, Labour insisted he was acting corruptly and was motivated by his shareholding, even though they represented a minuscule amount of his holdings. It is worth comparing the two situations of Key in 2003 and Wood in 2023, so I have done a table. MP Key Wood Company Tranzrail Auckland Airport Shares value $100,000 approx $13,000 Est % of wealth 0.2% 2%+ Owned by Family trust not managed by Key Wood directly Breached standing orders No Yes Breached Cabinet Manual No Yes Alleged conflicted action Asked questions in Parliament Declined authority status to a competitor Role Associate Opposition Transport spokesperson Minister of Transport Sales of shares Done within 12 months of being an MP for a loss of over $100,000 Not done despite six twelve reminders from Cabinet office over 2.5 years Now with the Key situation, Labour insisted this was an egregious breach of standards. By their own rhetoric, what Wood does is clearly much worse. Also Hipkins has just revealed that the Cabinet Office asked Wood not six times, but 12 times if had sold the shares. This means surely he can’t continue as a Minister?
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Post by muzled on Jun 7, 2023 21:25:38 GMT 12
ps - is this an inside hitjob on the minister of filth?
He clearly has amibitions for the top job, so it seems quite possible that this data has been leaked from within in order to kneecap him and his greasy ambitions.
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jun 7, 2023 22:46:33 GMT 12
From Kiwiblog
Independent Electroral Panel deliverirs wishlist for the left:
Here are their key recommendations:
Entrench Treaty principles in the Electoral Act
Lower threshold to 3.5%
Abolish electorate seat threshold
Fix ratio of electorate: list seats to be 60:40 so Parliament size increases as number of electorates grows
Referendum on a four year term
No fixed election date
Abolish Waka-jumping law
Lower voting age to 16
Allow all prisoners the vote
Allow Maori to change rolls up to any including on election day
Ban donations of over $30,000 and increase taxpayer funding of parties to around $6 million per electoral cycle
Ban donations from companies and unions
I cann't see any mention of the abolishment of the Maori seats from the Royal Commision 1986.
Electoral reform in New Zealand: The report of the Royal Commission........(New Zealand is called New Zealand back then) Abstract
In late 1986 the Royal Commission on the Electoral System in New Zealand published its report. The Commission's recommendations were both radical and comprehensive. Amongst other things it proposed the introduction of a mixed member proportional (MMP) electoral system, the abolition of the four Maori seats, a substantial increase in the number of MPs, the state funding of political parties, and various changes to the system of boundary redistribution and the administration of elections. This paper outlines the background to the establishment of the Royal Commission, briefly examines the Commission's principal findings, and considers the prospects for reform.
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Post by fish on Jun 8, 2023 9:42:51 GMT 12
ps - is this an inside hitjob on the minister of filth? He clearly has amibitions for the top job, so it seems quite possible that this data has been leaked from within in order to kneecap him and his greasy ambitions. Labour hasn't finalised their list yet have they? That makes MP's do strange things to their colleagues. Ref the Greens and cry babies. But Wood has a safe Labour seat. Perhaps someone else wants that safe seat? Nania and Willy have been sidelined recently. Wood is white and allegedly male. Perhaps the Maori caucus are doing some mussel flexing and mischief making?
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Post by Cantab on Jun 8, 2023 10:04:03 GMT 12
Have your say, I did, and told them politely how racist and wrong they were, mentioned the Maori seat thing too. electoralreview.govt.nz/
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Post by sloopjohnb on Jun 8, 2023 10:16:39 GMT 12
WTF is the English Name of any government department underneath the other language, except for the Police.
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Post by muzled on Jun 8, 2023 12:57:19 GMT 12
WTF is the English Name of any government department underneath the other language, except for the Police. Yep, absolute bolloxs. Apparently Te Reo is the main language in noozld now? I'd say Aoteoroa but that's only the North Island and I'm sure we still include the south island as part of noozuld. Clearly they don't want people to actually submit their repsonses to that survey, took me about 10 mins to find the actual link to start submitting, most punters would put that front and centre. consultations.justice.govt.nz/policy/ier-draft-recommendations/consultation/subpage.2023-04-03.4869216914/It's worth doing, some good recommendations in there, and some others... - Requiring in the Electoral Act that the Electoral Commission give effect to te Tiriti / the Treaty and its principles - Requiring the Electoral Commission to prioritise establishing Māori governance over data collected about Māori in the administration of the electoral system - Removing most restrictions on when Māori can choose to enrol in Māori electorates or general electorates (the Māori electoral option) - Giving support to iwi, hapū, and other Māori organisations to lead voter participation and engagement activities - Establishing a fund to facilitate party and candidate engagement with Māori communities, in ways appropriate for Māori
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Post by eri on Jun 8, 2023 13:59:36 GMT 12
bryce seems to think he should go for the good of democracy in nz democracy, you know, the best political system nz's ever had
but as labour changes from being a party for the common-people to a top-down, left-wing elite party that lies to a populous it no longer trusts
democracy will have to subvert itself to the maori caucus
... There are increasing calls for Wood to be stripped of all ministerial roles. Taken together, all of the above transgressions certainly bring his integrity into too much question.There is still significant confusion about how Wood allowed this situation to occur, with most putting it down to incompetence or arrogance on the part of the minister. In the end, the exact reasons for his failings don’t matter as much as the overall picture of multiple integrity transgressions.Ultimately, however, it’s the integrity systems of Parliament and Cabinet that are tarnished by this episode. The public will now have less reason to trust that the pecuniary declarations of MPs can be trusted, or that the Cabinet Manual is adhered to or enforced. Once again, we are seeing that the political process is not sufficiently protected from the vested interests of politicians.www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/political-roundup-does-michael-wood-have-enough-integrity-to-be-a-minister/S7D54D2X5FCMRMNDRW4K5ESMFM/
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Post by muzled on Jun 8, 2023 14:25:12 GMT 12
So he plain ourright lied. In fact, when you think that he was asked a dozen times to sort it out, he was standing there flicking the bird to parliamentary services while he lied. Done deal, he's gotta go, ciao, don't let the door hit you on the arse on your way out. According to the Prime Minister, “One of the challenges is that the Cabinet Office had been advised by [Wood] on a number of occasions that he has divested himself of the shares, that clearly hasn’t happened. That is quite a material issue”.
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Post by eri on Jun 8, 2023 14:28:52 GMT 12
they say we have to be on our guard against 'fake-news'
but are always caught-out endlessly lying to us and each-other...
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Post by armchairadmiral on Jun 8, 2023 14:38:25 GMT 12
Thx mzld...just sent in my sixpenny worth. I like being ignored
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Post by harrytom on Jun 8, 2023 17:59:47 GMT 12
WTF is the English Name of any government department underneath the other language, except for the Police. There was a article last week on some Maori place names converted in to English. 2 examples made me laugh Ureinui beach down west coast before New pymouth come out as "Large Penis" Urewera came out as "Burnt Penis"
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Post by Fogg on Jun 8, 2023 18:56:52 GMT 12
That just about sums it all up.
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