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Post by eri on Oct 17, 2022 14:21:17 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 17, 2022 14:37:51 GMT 12
paywalled www.nbr.co.nz/on-the-record/arderns-star-has-fallen/from a BFD commenter summarising NBR had an article by Rachel Smalley claiming Arderns star has fallen. Even Smalley is predicting a shock resignation by Ardern before Christmas. Smalley writes that Ardern is on a hiding to nothing.....if she wins a third term, it will be with a coalition partner who will want their pound of flesh. If she loses, she leaves as a beaten PM which tarnishes her international brand. She writes that Ardern is admired internationally and would have a flood of job offers the moment she announces her resignation. Jobs that would keep coming for the next 20 years she reckons. Ardern has global ambitions and will leave at a time to gain the maximum leverage. I find myself agreeing with Smalley.Hope she resigns, as well as seeing her gone I get to collect $100 from a long standing bet that she will not make it to election night 2023 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 16:05:18 GMT 12
Aquaholic wrote . . "AJ answer this one question honestly... Do you agree with Arderns politics?... If you answer yes then you will not fit with this site! If no then welcome and I apologize. Put your cards on the table." OK, I will answer that, but you should answer my question first . . What is wrong with "woke"? I've done my bit AJ. Where's your bit? |
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Post by ajoliver on Oct 17, 2022 17:19:04 GMT 12
Aquaholic wrote . . "AJ answer this one question honestly... Do you agree with Arderns politics?... If you answer yes then you will not fit with this site! If no then welcome and I apologize. Put your cards on the table." OK, I will answer that, but you should answer my question first . . What is wrong with "woke"? I've done my bit AJ. Where's your bit? I have been helping mates get sailboats put up for the season before a blow, so I have not had much time to respond to your cheekiness. Do you really run this forum to the extent of dictating who will or will not "fit in"? And you are the acting superintendent of words as well ?? (re your fractured analysis of "woke") Jeebus, all that must keep you mighty busy !! If your particular "tude" (noun INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN) is typical of what goes on here, you are likely correct that I will not fit in. |
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Post by armchairadmiral on Oct 17, 2022 18:21:23 GMT 12
Don't give him too much creedence AJ.....most of the contribution on here is good natured and it certainly isn't a matter of 'fitting in' As I stated in an earlier post is reasoned non inflammatory posts without the censorship and deletions by administrators. It's great hearing views from US
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Post by eri on Oct 17, 2022 18:30:10 GMT 12
if this were a chain
the weakest link would be important
but it's not a chain
just a collection of individual links
chose your links wisely
and move forward
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Post by sabre on Oct 17, 2022 19:19:53 GMT 12
I've done my bit AJ. Where's your bit? I have been helping mates get sailboats put up for the season before a blow, so I have not had much time to respond to your cheekiness. Do you really run this forum to the extent of dictating who will or will not "fit in"? And you are the acting superintendent of words as well ?? (re your fractured analysis of "woke") Jeebus, all that must keep you mighty busy !! If your particular "tude" (noun INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN) is typical of what goes on here, you are likely correct that I will not fit in. AH has some good/interesting/funny posts imo but his "tude" is not typical of those here and he certainly doesn't speak on behalf of anyone. Hope you had a good sailing season AJ👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:51:01 GMT 12
I've done my bit AJ. Where's your bit? I have been helping mates get sailboats put up for the season before a blow, so I have not had much time to respond to your cheekiness. Do you really run this forum to the extent of dictating who will or will not "fit in"? And you are the acting superintendent of words as well ?? (re your fractured analysis of "woke") Jeebus, all that must keep you mighty busy !! If your particular "tude" (noun INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN) is typical of what goes on here, you are likely correct that I will not fit in. stop avoiding the question AJ. ... That reply was just a pathetic attempt to avoid answering the question I asked and you said you would answer. I don't run the forum. But I do hold people to account for thier bullshit and thier failed agreements when they fail to do what they say and then run avoidance spin to hide from the fact that you just love Stalinda but are afraid to admit it here. As for your "woke" response... pathetic !!!.. I have posted why woke is so wrong and your " fractured analysis" spin/reply in no way points out what is incorrect in my summation. Like Stalinda, you just throw out big words in a incoherent/irrelevant Manner without answering directly to the points I have made... Do you actually understand what woke is? So Mr Avoidance answer my question as you promised you would... .. see the next post ... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:56:24 GMT 12
Welcome AJ, I do apologise for aquaholics rudeness. If it is any consolation I tend not to bother reading his posts. I think there are many lefty sailors around here. In the context of this thread, I voted for this Labour govt. Twice. I am a slow learner... I still support Labour's fundamental lefty policies. That was to provide social housing / fixing our housing crises, and do practical things like provide school lunches, so that kids who's parents are drop kicks could get a good meal and actually learn at school and have a future. In my view, providing school lunches is one of the cheapest and most effective ways of breaking the longer term poverty cycle. Unfortunately its not happening. The key problem with this govt is they are not lefty anymore, but Authoritarian. There are substantial kerbs on free speach and a fundamental dismantling of our democracy, removal of the one person one vote foundation. Linking back to their lefty policies, they haven't delivered on any of it. Housing has become substantially worse, and substantially more children are classified as in poverty. That really pisses me off. Also please bear in mind that NZ politics is not very polarised, especially in comparison to the US. The two main parties are both completely centrist. It is the minor parties that are more classically left or right, noting we have an MMP system. On the free speech issue, did you see our PM's speech at the UN where she said freedom of speech is a weapon of war (in the context of social media control). I'm sure with your background as a SoPol Prof and veterans for peace, you must have some views on the value of free speech, and also on the principles of democracy, around one person, one vote. I'm keen to hear your views on this and look forward to an intelligent discussion  don't apologize for me!.. we all know AJs political leanings and we all left crew cos he was part of the " team problem ". You guys are 2 faced. He will not fit in here like we don't fit there. And he will be another "deleted". AJ answer this one question honestly... Do you agree with Arderns politics?... If you answer yes then you will not fit with this site! If no then welcome and I apologize. Put your cards on the table. . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:58:02 GMT 12
don't apologize for me!.. we all know AJs political leanings and we all left crew cos he was part of the " team problem ". You guys are 2 faced. He will not fit in here like we don't fit there. And he will be another "deleted". AJ answer this one question honestly... Do you agree with Arderns politics?... If you answer yes then you will not fit with this site! If no then welcome and I apologize. Put your cards on the table. . The next post is you agreement to answer.... Are you honourable AJ?... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 19:58:46 GMT 12
Aquaholic wrote . . "AJ answer this one question honestly... Do you agree with Arderns politics?... If you answer yes then you will not fit with this site! If no then welcome and I apologize. Put your cards on the table." OK, I will answer that, but you should answer my question first . . What is wrong with "woke"? . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 6:52:47 GMT 12
AJ ... Your just a troll.
You put up a 1st post stirring up the forum, get a response, say you will answer, come back with excuses about
Being busy ( we're all busy buddy) and stir the pot again, and don't answer.
Mate, you're full of it.
Another question..
We know your a lover of Arderns politics, because you view her "overseas" spin from a distance, rather than living in the shit hole she created, but what about your Green views!... Do you see that being a yacht person, that you are a huge polluter and contribute to green house gasses more than a non boat person.
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2022 14:36:07 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2022 14:42:30 GMT 12
AJ ... Your just a troll. You put up a 1st post stirring up the forum, get a response, say you will answer, come back with excuses about Being busy ( we're all busy buddy) and stir the pot again, and don't answer. Mate, you're full of it. Another question.. We know your a lover of Arderns politics, because you view her "overseas" spin from a distance, rather than living in the shit hole she created, but what about your Green views!... Do you see that being a yacht person, that you are a huge polluter and contribute to green house gasses more than a non boat person. No Alcoholic, AJ is not trolling, he is using the forum exactly how it was intended for. Given that he is based in North America, there is going to be typically a minimum of a 24hr lag between you posting and him responding. Additionally given he spends most of his time on SA, where there is a far wider range of views and intelligent people to interact with, I can see that responding to your demands wouldn't be too high on his list of things to do for recreation. |
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Post by ajoliver on Oct 18, 2022 16:21:36 GMT 12
I post a bit on NZ sites to learn about your country, and to share a perspective about the US (aka, the Hyper-Power) I thought that this thread was about upcoming elections in general which is why I jumped in, but if it only about NZ elections, let me know and I will bail out. I am really sorta flattered that Aqua-Dude thinks I know something about Jacinda and Labor's policies. I do not, and do not claim to - still trying to figure out MMP. But I know something about US policies and can share them for those who might be interested . . . Dunno about your conservatives, but ours have gone around the bend. I wrote this over the past several days . . . sanduskyregister.com/news/412779/why-republicans-are-too-dangerous/ |
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