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Post by armchairadmiral on Oct 18, 2022 16:28:01 GMT 12
Go for it AJ. It's about anything you want it to be ! I'm still trying to figure out MMP too. Best I can come up with is it's heaven sent for MP's
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Post by fish on Oct 18, 2022 16:44:15 GMT 12
I post a bit on NZ sites to learn about your country, and to share a perspective about the US (aka, the Hyper-Power) I thought that this thread was about upcoming elections in general which is why I jumped in, but if it only about NZ elections, let me know and I will bail out. I am really sorta flattered that Aqua-Dude thinks I know something about Jacinda and Labor's policies. I do not, and do not claim to - still trying to figure out MMP. But I know something about US policies and can share them for those who might be interested . . . Dunno about your conservatives, but ours have gone around the bend. I wrote this over the past several days . . . sanduskyregister.com/news/412779/why-republicans-are-too-dangerous/We don't really have conservatives like you do. Our main parties are always fairly centrist. Infact, most of the time it is hard to tell them apart other than by the colour of their branding. The minor parties represent the more extreme ends of the political spectrum, and likewise there size / popularity generally reflects the level of that extremism in society. Greens on one end and Libertarians on the other. Race based parties off on one axis, it is all there somewhere. MMP was designed to prevent dictators coming to power. I think it came out of Germany after Hitler. The idea is that power is shared between a collection of coalition partners. A coalition is needed to form a govt normally. Case in point, this current Labour govt got a majority in the last election (cause of covid basically), and they have gone nuts - this is why we are all bitching on here. Normally, where power is shared across a coalition, not one party or person can go nuts with decisive of controversial policies. Nothing much changes, which can look slow and cumbersome, but then everything is predictable for financial planning, businesses etc. You don't get these wild up-ending of everything like you do in the US when the red guy or the blue guy wins and undoes everything the last guy did. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 16:51:53 GMT 12
AJ ... Your just a troll. You put up a 1st post stirring up the forum, get a response, say you will answer, come back with excuses about Being busy ( we're all busy buddy) and stir the pot again, and don't answer. Mate, you're full of it. Another question.. We know your a lover of Arderns politics, because you view her "overseas" spin from a distance, rather than living in the shit hole she created, but what about your Green views!... Do you see that being a yacht person, that you are a huge polluter and contribute to green house gasses more than a non boat person. No Alcoholic, AJ is not trolling, he is using the forum exactly how it was intended for. Given that he is based in North America, there is going to be typically a minimum of a 24hr lag between you posting and him responding. Additionally given he spends most of his time on SA, where there is a far wider range of views and intelligent people to interact with, I can see that responding to your demands wouldn't be too high on his list of things to do for recreation. get the fact right! they're not my demands fish they are his. He asked the questions, I answered them, then he agree to answer my question and he reneged.... .come on AJ honour your commitment and answer the question.... And! Don't hide behind " I don't know enough about the subject" when you clearly do and have made comment as such in other websites. Playing dumb justs make you look dumb! Front up AJ |
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Post by eri on Oct 18, 2022 17:15:31 GMT 12
it is widely considered that the left wing of the democrats = nz labour
and the right wing of democrats = nz national
even nz's act is closer to your libertarian party than the conservatives
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Post by GO30 on Oct 18, 2022 20:01:34 GMT 12
... Aqua-Dude and his 'tude'. Great word, I like it. But I know something about US policies and can share them for those who might be interested . . . Is it compulsory to vote, register and such over there?
It's popped back up over here due to the low turn out in the local body elections. Personally if it was compulsory I'd just deface the paper unless there was a reason not too i.e. the choices aren't only being shot, being drowned, being rogered by an angry Blue whale or having to spend a week in Sydney. I think compulsory voting only benefits the pollies, it gives them more ability to say 'the people voted so who am I to blaa blaa blaa....' as they cause carnage country wide. The same 'endorse/legitimise the polly by sneaky arse marketing' is the why they push 'If you don't vote you have no voice'.
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Post by dutyfree on Oct 18, 2022 20:46:02 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Oct 18, 2022 20:56:28 GMT 12
haha
from that
A powerful sense of entitlement does, however, lie at the heart of the 2022 losers’ sour grapes. Not the entitlement derived from democratic principle, but the sense of entitlement ingrained in political activists who believe themselves to be on the right (that is to say left) side of history. This certainty concerning their own ideological rectitude exists in inverse proportion to their knowledge of the actual nuts-and-bolts of historical and political agency.
The voice of the people, is the voice of God.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2022 21:13:57 GMT 12
... Aqua-Dude and his 'tude'. Great word, I like it. But I know something about US policies and can share them for those who might be interested . . . Is it compulsory to vote, register and such over there?
It's popped back up over here due to the low turn out in the local body elections. Personally if it was compulsory I'd just deface the paper unless there was a reason not too i.e. the choices aren't only being shot, being drowned, being rogered by an angry Blue whale or having to spend a week in Sydney. I think compulsory voting only benefits the pollies, it gives them more ability to say 'the people voted so who am I to blaa blaa blaa....' as they cause carnage country wide. The same 'endorse/legitimise the polly by sneaky arse marketing' is the why they push 'If you don't vote you have no voice'.
better not to vote than vote for a person who has little or no policies ( most canidates) / hidden agendas / the wrong person/ anybody! |
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Post by ajoliver on Oct 19, 2022 4:59:22 GMT 12
Is it compulsory to vote, register and such over there?
No voting is not compulsory in the US, and many states make it difficult to register as well. Registration of young and low income folks is especially burdensome - and that is no accident. What we call voter suppression is very real. The struggle for the right to vote has been a long one in the US which has involved a whole lot of deadly violence. Consider: If your right to vote were not important, why do they go to such lengths to take it away from you ?? Comments here refer to the US - not Aotearoa |
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Post by eri on Oct 19, 2022 5:59:12 GMT 12
here it really easy to register
but people can't be bothered keeping their details up to date when they move
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Post by eri on Oct 19, 2022 6:10:03 GMT 12
jacinda is worried about the waste of a byelection... .that labour will almost certainly lose as hamilton west was previously a safe national seat 2008,2011,2014,2017
"Labour promised in 2017 that there would be light rail from Mt Roskill to the CBD by 2021,
so far they've spent $66 million of OUR money and not 1mtr of track has been laid
$44 million – or roughly 66 per cent – was spent on "expert consultants".
is jacinda concerned by this waste?
how could they promise light rail in 4 years when they seem to never had the ability to deliver it?
did they knowing lie or are they that incompetent?
www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politics/auckland-light-rail-consultants-snap-up-two-thirds-of-governments-66-million-fund/E6WDFB544EONU2WL4YCLZIWY3I/
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Post by eri on Oct 19, 2022 6:26:54 GMT 12
aj you asked what's wrong with wokism A CNZ advisory board member wrote in a statement that the school's (shakespear) festival didn’t receive funding because it focuses on “a canon of imperialism”.
Another funding assessor wrote: “ question whether a singular focus on an Elizabethan playwright is most relevant for a decolonising Aotearoa in the 2020s and beyond.”
www.1news.co.nz/2022/10/13/thou-art-boring-is-shakespeare-relevant-to-nz-in-2022/ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2022 6:34:45 GMT 12
Is it compulsory to vote, register and such over there?
No voting is not compulsory in the US, and many states make it difficult to register as well. Registration of young and low income folks is especially burdensome - and that is no accident. What we call voter suppression is very real. The struggle for the right to vote has been a long one in the US which has involved a whole lot of deadly violence. Consider: If your right to vote were not important, why do they go to such lengths to take it away from you ?? Comments here refer to the US - not Aotearoa still waiting for a real answer Jacinda. Oops I mean AJ.. Man up and tell us if you like her politics or not. .. No bullshit replies AJ, you're a intelligent person whom knows what's she about and have been obviously reading forums on the issue Honour your agreement. Or be labelled a dishonorable troll. |
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Post by Cantab on Oct 19, 2022 6:53:39 GMT 12
Is it compulsory to vote, register and such over there?
It's popped back up over here due to the low turn out in the local body elections. Personally if it was compulsory I'd just deface the paper unless there was a reason not too i.e. the choices aren't only being shot, being drowned, being rogered by an angry Blue whale or having to spend a week in Sydney. I think compulsory voting only benefits the pollies, it gives them more ability to say 'the people voted so who am I to blaa blaa blaa....' as they cause carnage country wide. The same 'endorse/legitimise the polly by sneaky arse marketing' is the why they push 'If you don't vote you have no voice'.
better not to vote than vote for a person who has little or no policies ( most canidates) / hidden agendas / the wrong person/ anybody! Pisses me off when people use that argument for not voting. You are basically voting for the status quo, Jacinda love you. I think the argument gets spread deliberately by incumbents at times to try stop the disgruntled from voting, works well. You need to vote if you want change, otherwise you are not voting for change, its that simple. What you get after that is always a bit of an unknown but don't come complaining here if Jacinda gets back in and you didn't vote. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 19, 2022 8:13:34 GMT 12
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