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Feb 26, 2024 13:07:03 GMT 12
Post by DuckMaster on Feb 26, 2024 13:07:03 GMT 12
Many independent studies have disproved commonly-heard allegations that people are dying as a result of COVID-19 vaccination. Such assertions are frequently forwarded on social media and tend to recirculate every time a prominent person passes away suddenly, regardless of the cause.
There are quite a few studies that have come to the conclusion that it's COVID-19 is contributing significantly to the sudden deaths being reported and not any vaccine.
Here is an example:
A recent study by ICMR observed the course of 14,419 people who were discharged from hospitals across India after surviving COVID-19. The study found a remarkably high death rate of 6.5 percent over a year. Specific risk factors included age-specific reasons and pre-existing medical conditions. The main causes of these delayed deaths were heart and lung disease. The study reported that people who were vaccinated were less likely to die over the subsequent one-year period when compared to those who were unvaccinated.
Another:
For COVID-19 survivors, the risk of developing a heart condition even a year after infection, regardless of how severe symptoms were, is "substantial," according to a February 2022 study of more than 150,000 individuals with COVID-19. The risk increases even for people who don't have any other risk factors for heart disease.
Another:
figures up to June 2022 looking at deaths from all causes show unvaccinated people were more likely to die than vaccinated people. While this data on its own can't tell us it's the vaccine protecting people from dying - there are too many complicating factors - if vaccines were driving excess deaths we would expect this to be the other way around.
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Covid
Feb 26, 2024 13:19:46 GMT 12
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Post by Fogg on Feb 26, 2024 13:19:46 GMT 12
Ok so I’ve always been on the fence with this and borderline yes / no on the benefits of the Covid vaccine - mainly slightly wary due to the speed of its development. And based on this that remains the case.
I’m not hearing anything to suggest the vax is proven to be a dark, silent, undetected (or hidden) killer.
And when you look at the benefits other vaccines have had on population health over the years - countless large-scale studies prove that life expectancy improves when you get all the other vaccines available to you - then I’m struggling to believe this is much different.
Otherwise, where’s the evidence?
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Feb 26, 2024 14:44:58 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Feb 26, 2024 14:44:58 GMT 12
For starters its not a vaccine. It was only called that as "gene therapy" would have been a much tougher sell and would not have made it through the regulatory process. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37445690/In saying that I have no issue with people jabbing themselves up to the eyballs if thats their thing but just don't try and force others to do the same by threatening to exclude them from employment and society. While it was marketed as a well established "safe and effective" science, there is no question that mRNA was and still is in its infancy and longterm effects are completely unknown. This paper is from 2018.. virologyresearchservices.com/2018/08/11/mrna-vaccines-go-into-humans/"Even more problematic is the fact that our understanding of how innate immunity modulates adaptive immunity is not quite complete, and while the innate immunity is well known to be crucial for the establishment of an effective cellular response, it has also been shown to trigger immune-regulatory mechanisms that can shut the immune response down. What this depends on is not quite clear, and for this reason, hard to control." As far as efficacy goes I don't think there is much question that mRNA was less than useless. In my own personal observations I have seen the jabs wreck havic on peoples health. In contrast I have nearly 30 friends and family who refused the jab. None have had significant illness from covid and none have had long covid, cardiac issues, cancer, strokes etc etc. I haven't even taken a day off work due to covid. Compare that with the people who I know are jabbed and its another kettle of fish. They seem to be getting covid over and over again. Both my daughter and stepson had myocarditis. Three ECE centre owners my partner has worked for were dead within 6 months of the jab. Two brain anurisms and one agressive cancer. Another lady I know is in the final stages of an aggresive cancer. A work collegue who used to do ironman events suffered major cardiac issues within a month of his jab. He still cant walk 50m without losing his breath. The list goes on and on. Maybe its just a coincidence and really bad luck for the jabbed but based on research that has led me to the likes of Dr Maholtra, Luc Montagnier etc I suspect not.
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Covid
Feb 26, 2024 19:58:25 GMT 12
Post by DuckMaster on Feb 26, 2024 19:58:25 GMT 12
For starters its not a vaccine. It was only called that as "gene therapy" would have been a much tougher sell and would not have made it through the regulatory process. False. None of the vax's alter your DNA. None of them perform "gene therapy"... They literally do not do the very thing that "gene therapy" is defined as... They do not change your DNA therefore they are not gene therapy.
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Covid
Feb 26, 2024 20:07:05 GMT 12
Post by DuckMaster on Feb 26, 2024 20:07:05 GMT 12
Otherwise, where’s the evidence? There isn't any that can be relied on. There's numerous research papers suggesting the opposite. There's plenty of very very rich people out there who have tried and failed to find the smoking gun. Cause the smoking gun isn't to be found... Do you really think that Elon Muck would be sitting quiet if he thought for even one second that the vaccine was killing people? There's absolutely no fucking way he would be... especially, according to his own tweets, the vaccine "nearly" sent him into hospital. Our resident conspiracy theorist probably thinks that he is part of the conspiracy...
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Post by Cantab on Feb 26, 2024 20:07:28 GMT 12
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Covid
Feb 26, 2024 20:14:05 GMT 12
Post by DuckMaster on Feb 26, 2024 20:14:05 GMT 12
Err nope. I know one unvaccinated person who is still petrified of getting COVID. Pretty much has destroyed their life - scared of the vaccine, scared of COVID... won't go to work, rarely leaves their house, gets EVERYTHING delivered... That's your tax money going up in smoke right there people - apparently it's a bona-fide sickness and makes you eligible for all the benefits...
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Feb 27, 2024 17:28:20 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Feb 27, 2024 17:33:41 GMT 12
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Feb 28, 2024 13:00:00 GMT 12
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Feb 29, 2024 9:12:14 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Feb 29, 2024 9:12:14 GMT 12
quite a balanced article theconversation.com/unintended-consequences-of-nzs-covid-vaccine-mandates-must-inform-future-pandemic-policy-new-research-222989altho it does not make mention of the secret ~11,000 exemptions given to MoH personnel This quote from a nurse interviewed is a sad reflection on the society we have become We’re supposed to be a caring profession. Nothing about this is caring […] Due to no fault of my own, I have now been labelled an anti-vaxxer and anti-science, and in some people’s opinion, not worthy of calling myself a nurse. This hurts me immensely. This is what mandates have done. There is no room for individual circumstances.
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Feb 29, 2024 12:45:24 GMT 12
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Feb 29, 2024 19:26:39 GMT 12
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Mar 10, 2024 13:32:12 GMT 12
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Post by jim on Mar 10, 2024 13:32:12 GMT 12
I heard the police asked Westpac to close the account and thought surely not here in NZ... did a search and found the above.
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Mar 10, 2024 20:39:58 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 10, 2024 20:39:58 GMT 12
I heard the police asked Westpac to close the account and thought surely not here in NZ... did a search and found the above. Strange things happen when you piss off The Machine. What is the name of that author that wrote the Dirty Politics book? Nicky Hager. Got rodgered bigly by the police and security services. The police were in the wrong all along, but it took Hager near a decade and feck knows how much cost to prove they were wrong. He got various payouts and private apologies / settlements, but I think with Hager he was right. Barry Young has some major legal issues on his hands. I hate to see what he will look like once The Machine has finished with him. How is Julian Assange getting on now?
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