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Covid
Jun 1, 2024 17:39:35 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Jun 1, 2024 17:39:35 GMT 12
Another win for the conspiracy theorists.. "We believe it's time to stop using the term long Covid," he said. "[It] causes unnecessary fear. It implies that there is something particularly sinister and ominous about Covid-19. "Our evidence suggests that there isn't, that it is not dissimilar to other viruses. That does not mean that you can't get these persistent symptoms following Covid-19, but you're no more likely to get it after Covid than with other respiratory viruses." www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/511881/long-covid-no-worse-or-more-likely-than-other-post-viral-syndromes-study#:~:text=16%20Mar%202024-,Long%20Covid%20no%20worse%20or%20more,other%20post%2Dviral%20syndromes%20%2D%20study&text=The%20term%20%22long%20Covid%22%20should,and%20is%20%22probably%20harmful%22. What a complete spinner. This sounds like classic medical professional gaslighting. Everyone in the ME community - including med professionals and researchers, have known that long covid is ME. There is no difference. Never has been. So all this guy has done has send a text message questionnaire. Firstly, who opens links from randoms sent to them by text message? It is Phishing scam 101. But my main point, anyone with actual ME from covid wont have the energy, and sure as hell wouldn't waste it fill out some text message questionnaire. Sick people don't waste their time on non-critical activities. I know, I've been there. Given the absolute avalanche of research out their on covid, long covid and ME, for this clown to be able to draw any conclusions from a statistically minor and flawed text survey is laughable. It sounds like a public official having a go at justifying his existence. As a note, it is very common to find conflicting research on points just like this, mainly because someone does some half arsed investigation, like text message surveys with no control over who actually responds (sick people don't respond), and calls it research. Not sure why you are so upset Fish. Are you saying that there is a higher rate of "long covid" than "long flu"? I have seen other studies that have had similar findings to this one. I firmly believe that the term "long covid" has been overused to A, scare more people into taking the jabs and B, to mask the number of people suffering jab injuries. Just to be clear, I do believe some people are suffering long term health effects from covid, just as some do from the flu and pnuemonia etc |
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Jun 1, 2024 20:10:43 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 1, 2024 20:10:43 GMT 12
What a complete spinner. This sounds like classic medical professional gaslighting. Everyone in the ME community - including med professionals and researchers, have known that long covid is ME. There is no difference. Never has been. So all this guy has done has send a text message questionnaire. Firstly, who opens links from randoms sent to them by text message? It is Phishing scam 101. But my main point, anyone with actual ME from covid wont have the energy, and sure as hell wouldn't waste it fill out some text message questionnaire. Sick people don't waste their time on non-critical activities. I know, I've been there. Given the absolute avalanche of research out their on covid, long covid and ME, for this clown to be able to draw any conclusions from a statistically minor and flawed text survey is laughable. It sounds like a public official having a go at justifying his existence. As a note, it is very common to find conflicting research on points just like this, mainly because someone does some half arsed investigation, like text message surveys with no control over who actually responds (sick people don't respond), and calls it research. Not sure why you are so upset Fish. Are you saying that there is a higher rate of "long covid" than "long flu"? I have seen other studies that have had similar findings to this one. I firmly believe that the term "long covid" has been overused to A, scare more people into taking the jabs and B, to mask the number of people suffering jab injuries. Just to be clear, I do believe some people are suffering long term health effects from covid, just as some do from the flu and pnuemonia etc Why am I so upset? Short story is I'm easily triggered by medical professionals gaslighting people with real illnesses because the medical person doesn't know anything. More-so when said medical people refer to poorly scoped and constructed reports as some sort of definitive research. Quasi-research. In the context of the article you posted, covid still causes a post-viral illness. It has never mattered what virus causes it, it has always been the same trigger to the condition. Predominantly people are triggered by the Epstien Barr virus (As I was). So to say covid doesn't cause any greater proportion of post viral illness is an entirely redundant statement. It is like quibbling over people that are killed by guns, over what calibre the bullet was. The fact is they were killed by a bullet. What people never realised pre-covid was there is a real risk of getting a post viral condition / ME from a virus. Previously no-one gave a shit. The fact of the matter is, covid is a virus, and it was a pandemic, meaning the vast majority of the population got it at some stage. Therefore the vast majority of the population are at risk of post viral illness / ME. It is not due to the covid virus, but due to a viral pandemic. So the issues I have with this article are twoflod - it was dubious quality research at best - quasi research, AND the purpose of the research was entirely a nonsense. Rebranding the condition DOES NOT make it any less real for the people suffering it. ME has been rebranded multiple times, it doesn't make it any less real for sufferers. It would be far better if this guy put some effort into prevention or treatment than nonsense quasi-research that is akin to rebranding the deckchairs on the Titanic from deck chairs to sun loungers to chaise lounge and back to deck chairs. They are still seat like things that keep your arse off the ground. Basically the whole thing is a load of fluff and twaddle that has no useful or practical purpose, but somehow is funded by taxpayers and is presented as 'research'. |
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Covid
Jun 3, 2024 9:01:39 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Jun 3, 2024 9:01:39 GMT 12
I have a big important question I need help with
Bugger me, the rona's got the missus much goodly. She noticed it last Sunday, by Tuesday looking a bag of shit swimming in a pool of shit, the test went positive in 3 seconds. Come Friday peak past and now all nasal etc so after playing nurse all week I took the opportunity and run and I ran fast. Now busy doing rural to just chat and find she's still testing a very strong positive. The idea of heading back to town and wife still infested does raise a tricky question. Later when I tell her she's too infested for me to want to be with what shall I whip up for dinner this evening?
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Covid
Jun 3, 2024 9:44:28 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Jun 3, 2024 9:44:28 GMT 12
I have a big important question I need help with Bugger me, the rona's got the missus much goodly. She noticed it last Sunday, by Tuesday looking a bag of shit swimming in a pool of shit, the test went positive in 3 seconds. Come Friday peak past and now all nasal etc so after playing nurse all week I took the opportunity and run and I ran fast. Now busy doing rural to just chat and find she's still testing a very strong positive. The idea of heading back to town and wife still infested does raise a tricky question. Later when I tell her she's too infested for me to want to be with what shall I whip up for dinner this evening? Steak and chips. Why do you even need to think about this? The default dinner option is always steak and chips, much like the default movie option is something to do with submarines, usually Hunt for Red October. |
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Covid
Jun 3, 2024 18:24:46 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Jun 3, 2024 18:24:46 GMT 12
so the WHO has bypassed its own rules to get it revised international health regulations in place dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/outrage-as-who-gains-extensive-powers-by-breaching-international-law/excerpt However, the process and legality of the amendments have immediately been called into question, particularly regarding the WHO’s adherence to basic international law.The amendments involve changes to 33 of the 66 existing articles and the addition of six new ones.The amendment process has been fraught with procedural issues. Critics argue that the WHO has not adhered to its own rules which mandates that any proposed amendment must be communicated to all member states at least four months before the World Health Assembly where it is to be considered. The final text of the proposed amendments was circulated on May 10, just 17 days before the Assembly, falling well short of this requirement.Furthermore, the resumed eighth meeting of the Working Group on Amendments to the International Health Regulations (WGIHR), held on May 16-17, 2024, failed to reach a final agreement, leaving negotiations ongoing up to the start of the WHA. This has raised concerns about transparency and due process, with accusations that the WHO is pushing through changes without adequate scrutiny or consensus.And The controversy surrounding these amendments reflects broader concerns about the WHO’s role and governance. Critics argue that the organisation lacks transparency and accountability, is funded by massive private for-profit interests, is flagrantly overstepping its mandate, and that the rapid pace of these changes undermines democratic processes and national sovereignty. The amendments are seen by some as a means to centralise power within the WHO, which is heavily funded by private interests who profit from ‘medicines’, at the expense of member states’ autonomy in managing public health crises.They really are quite desperate to increase their "powers". No doubt similar dirty tricks to follow for the pandemic treaty, all with Bloomers right in the thick of this. |
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Jun 3, 2024 19:18:52 GMT 12
Post by muzled on Jun 3, 2024 19:18:52 GMT 12
so the WHO has bypassed its own rules to get it revised international health regulations in place dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/outrage-as-who-gains-extensive-powers-by-breaching-international-law/excerpt However, the process and legality of the amendments have immediately been called into question, particularly regarding the WHO’s adherence to basic international law.The amendments involve changes to 33 of the 66 existing articles and the addition of six new ones.The amendment process has been fraught with procedural issues. Critics argue that the WHO has not adhered to its own rules which mandates that any proposed amendment must be communicated to all member states at least four months before the World Health Assembly where it is to be considered. The final text of the proposed amendments was circulated on May 10, just 17 days before the Assembly, falling well short of this requirement.Furthermore, the resumed eighth meeting of the Working Group on Amendments to the International Health Regulations (WGIHR), held on May 16-17, 2024, failed to reach a final agreement, leaving negotiations ongoing up to the start of the WHA. This has raised concerns about transparency and due process, with accusations that the WHO is pushing through changes without adequate scrutiny or consensus.And The controversy surrounding these amendments reflects broader concerns about the WHO’s role and governance. Critics argue that the organisation lacks transparency and accountability, is funded by massive private for-profit interests, is flagrantly overstepping its mandate, and that the rapid pace of these changes undermines democratic processes and national sovereignty. The amendments are seen by some as a means to centralise power within the WHO, which is heavily funded by private interests who profit from ‘medicines’, at the expense of member states’ autonomy in managing public health crises.They really are quite desperate to increase their "powers". No doubt similar dirty tricks to follow for the pandemic treaty, all with Bloomers right in the thick of this. Sounds like a good spot for JT should he ever get evicted from his fiefdom... Surely the WHO are nothing if no countries sign anything. You'd think it should be all round double shakas. |
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Covid
Jun 5, 2024 13:35:00 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Jun 5, 2024 13:35:00 GMT 12
I have a big important question I need help with Bugger me, the rona's got the missus much goodly. She noticed it last Sunday, by Tuesday looking a bag of shit swimming in a pool of shit, the test went positive in 3 seconds. Come Friday peak past and now all nasal etc so after playing nurse all week I took the opportunity and run and I ran fast. Now busy doing rural to just chat and find she's still testing a very strong positive. The idea of heading back to town and wife still infested does raise a tricky question. Later when I tell her she's too infested for me to want to be with what shall I whip up for dinner this evening? Steak and chips. Why do you even need to think about this? The default dinner option is always steak and chips, much like the default movie option is something to do with submarines, usually Hunt for Red October. Going off beef a bit when in rural. Had a BBQ a month or 3 back and while munching the Wa said suss that lot. The teenagers were in the home paddock and had lined up along the fence staring at us, they knew we were eating their cuzzy. I'm sure those Murray Greys know that and are mobilising their Angus Army to get revenge when the moment fits. Hows that for paranoid 
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Covid
Jun 5, 2024 14:41:19 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 5, 2024 14:41:19 GMT 12
Steak and chips. Why do you even need to think about this? The default dinner option is always steak and chips, much like the default movie option is something to do with submarines, usually Hunt for Red October. Going off beef a bit when in rural. Had a BBQ a month or 3 back and while munching the Wa said suss that lot. The teenagers were in the home paddock and had lined up along the fence staring at us, they knew we were eating their cuzzy. I'm sure those Murray Greys know that and are mobilising their Angus Army to get revenge when the moment fits. Hows that for paranoid
You aren't going vegan are you? Do you need an intervention? |
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Covid
Jun 6, 2024 9:03:25 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 6, 2024 9:03:25 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Jun 7, 2024 6:44:08 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 7, 2024 8:33:11 GMT 12
Fauci's lies being laid out in the open  |
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Covid
Jun 8, 2024 21:13:27 GMT 12
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Post by sabre on Jun 8, 2024 21:13:27 GMT 12
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Jun 11, 2024 8:23:05 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Jun 11, 2024 8:23:05 GMT 12
what some have been saying all along
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Covid
Jun 11, 2024 11:39:13 GMT 12
Post by GO30 on Jun 11, 2024 11:39:13 GMT 12
I believe NZ and most others had to sign a waiver from prosecution, should the jab be found wanting later down the track, before they would supply any.
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Covid
Jun 12, 2024 21:23:04 GMT 12
Post by ComfortZone on Jun 12, 2024 21:23:04 GMT 12
hmm, so it looks like there are still jab mandates around, and not just for workers
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