Covid

Agree it could easily turn quite nasty. Especially given NZ has done really well in the last 12 months to kill off one it’s most attractive long-term assets -the ability to attract talented and wealthy immigrants who help drive economic growth.

Anyone who has been touched by the humanitarian or commercial catastrophe caused by NZ MIQ will have been put off for life the idea of building a personal or business relationship with NZ - just too risky. Plus the foreign tourism.

Better to look elsewhere to another country that doesn’t have the same history of such brutal & abrupt shut-down and shut-off.

Btw, what’s the rationale for the predicted high rates of sick vaxxed people?

youtu.be/ufy2AweXRkc

Not too crazy, puts out a lot of layman's versions of the science. Not necessarily the PC version either.

I think the surge thing is being overplayed, the numbers are rising, there is a bit more to it. In particular Israel is allways portrayed as a highly vaxxed country, this has not been true for a long time.

I graph it fairly regularly and there are some pretty obvious relationships to vaccination. Need a couple more weeks to see it for sure this time but there is a definite relationship between vaccination level and deaths.

I believe the waning immunity thing is a bit overdone too, maybe elderly and immune compromised benefit from boosters but in general the immune response is still good, this is mention in a number of official reports, NZ UK and others.

The big rises in cases mentioned in the news no longer seem lead to equally big rises in hospitalisation and deaths, higher vax rates correlate with less response in deaths.

There is something very dodgy behind this testing issue in NZ, I bet there is a lot of damage control going on behind scenes. It must have been real bad for them to cancel the contract.

www.nzherald.co.nz/business/covid-19-delta-outbreak-sir-ian-taylors-miq-logbook-no-excuse-for-govts-decision-to-abandon-saliva-testing-pilot/72H45HLR7XQOWTD33CGBFGCCJE/

Lets hope they front up, and hurry up, and let the local guys sort it out for them. Rapid testing has been an obvious effective tool for a long time now. Probably should be some people tumbled over this one too, its a bit more than incompetence.

Sooner or later the media will change sides when backing a losing horse doesn't pay enough anymore. They are pretty effective at controlling public opinion, Jacinda will burn if they turn on her.

Seymour is challenging the “No job = no job” mandate and asking for unvaxxed workers to be given alternative of frequent testing. This seems to be a fair & pragmatic option for the minority who choose to remain unvaxxed.

Personally I’d like everyone to be vaxxed but I know that won’t happen and in that scenario I prefer to prioritise individual freedom of choice as a higher priority to mandates. So let people continue working and get access the same services as the vaxxed if they can show recent negative test.

today's announcement of the forthcoming announcement

Jacinda Ardern says Aucklanders will be given more detail on Wednesday over how the border will be managed over the summer.

www.1news.co.nz/2021/11/15/auckland-to-learn-more-about-border-reopening-on-wednesday/

but good to hear drs., nurses and early pfizer adopters 

can get their booster shots from the end of the month

but hope the kids are alright

as the stroll-out for youth will continue