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Post by fish on Dec 2, 2021 13:53:26 GMT 12
You might like to call me a conspiracy theorist. Actually, I'm a realist.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Dec 2, 2021 15:01:51 GMT 12
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Post by armchairadmiral on Dec 2, 2021 15:12:46 GMT 12
The so called PM is a liar IMO. Every promise she makes she breaks. And I recognise she's not doing this alone,she's being stage managed. The most open ,honest and transparent Government and governing for all NZ.All lies and deceit . Well it worked to get the votes from people who believed it and we've got another two years of lies and deceit. Lets hope Luxon and Seymour are the elixir
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 3, 2021 9:18:43 GMT 12
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Post by armchairadmiral on Dec 3, 2021 12:25:25 GMT 12
Scary stuff CZ. Doesn't surprise me though.I try and keep up but knew nothing about this. Like most of NZ
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Post by Fogg on Dec 3, 2021 13:35:18 GMT 12
The top part of this pic is OK… BUT the bottom part “Trust Framework” has potential for a very dark interpretation. It all depends on the details. I really do not want to go down the path of conspiracy theory here - and I firmly believe that the only proper use for tin foil is to cover my roast chicken - but I am struggling a bit with the potential motives here. Please can someone provide a counter-balancing theory or opinion as to why we shouldn’t be concerned about this eg AJO or Grounded? Btw, this pic has the look of a consultant’s work product to me…  |
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 12, 2021 12:50:47 GMT 12
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Post by Cantab on Dec 22, 2021 6:55:38 GMT 12
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Post by armchairadmiral on Dec 22, 2021 7:10:39 GMT 12
To all intents and purpose NZ is now a petty communist state. Covid was China/USA/Russian or Heaven sent.They control everything via Covid fear. I'm fully expecting an announcement that Global Warming is caused by Covid
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 22, 2021 8:46:19 GMT 12
I think GW caused Covid.
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Post by grounded on Dec 22, 2021 11:14:09 GMT 12
Utter rubbish. Think about it. Do you really think NZ media would put up with Gvt telling them what they can and can't report?? It doesn't happen here. Well proven when a reporter gets stuck into an MP or Prime Minister or Party and asks the sticky questions.
Failure to report something is purely fair and square the Media themselves. They only report news that is news worthy. It is all about Advertising.
And re the Communist comment. I am shocked when People make these comments. It is either ignorance, or it is offensive, Offensive to those that live in a real Communist Country. Most of you here should be old enough to know what real Communism is. We live in a Country that has a system called Social Democracy. And we are probably close to the top of Countries in the World that have a fair and free system.
And I also cannot believe the comments several of you posts, where one minute you say the Gvt can't keep control or what is happening and the next, you say the Gvt is controlling us via Covid. It can't be both. I lean toward the can't control side. As the saying goes, "they can't organise a shag in a Brothel".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 11:42:48 GMT 12
Utter rubbish. Think about it. Do you really think NZ media would put up with Gvt telling them what they can and can't report?? It doesn't happen here. Well proven when a reporter gets stuck into an MP or Prime Minister or Party and asks the sticky questions. Failure to report something is purely fair and square the Media themselves. They only report news that is news worthy. It is all about Advertising. And re the Communist comment. I am shocked when People make these comments. It is either ignorance, or it is offensive, Offensive to those that live in a real Communist Country. Most of you here should be old enough to know what real Communism is. We live in a Country that has a system called Social Democracy. And we are probably close to the top of Countries in the World that have a fair and free system. And I also cannot believe the comments several of you posts, where one minute you say the Gvt can't keep control or what is happening and the next, you say the Gvt is controlling us via Covid. It can't be both. I lean toward the can't control side. As the saying goes, "they can't organise a shag in a Brothel". Grounded, take your eye patch off for a moment and smell the roses.. . So you don't see the Tova and Jessica hour every day!?. Why are they chosen first every day until they were pinged Why do Tova And Jessica not challenge Donkey Chops yet always get airtime from her ..do you actually know how Donkey chops controls the media when she has question time. Did you know why she only invites certain media and ni public to public media announcements. As such as Wanganui et al... do you understand that she vets every question in formal interviews Do you wonder why she went to Auckland and met with one business and had no media present. She is a control freak that works on the premise. " Control the message control the media control the people. She definitely has brought out the media. By subsidizing them by million on dollars, controlling the questions and her avoidance answers,and by controlling who can attend and who gets to ask particular questions ... By default the medias ( mainly TVs) lack of objection to the aforementioned Is a dead giveaway. Donkey chops has control over them and certain media people allows it to happen. I don't include Barry soper nir his close colleagues in this. They have seen it first hand and challenged it. ( Google that!) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2021 11:57:06 GMT 12
Also the level of state control is out if control .
Lock downs extended beyond Ashley's recommendation is an example.
Slowness to order the jab because Donkey chops wanted othersm countries to get it first and thus ignore our own people was another disgraceful episode and done just to make her self look great on the world stage. Ego ahead of health.
Giving in to Te tai Tokerau/Hone to control people's movements without a law to do so then making it law overnight is control of Hitler proportions ... Then they stopped the border 3 days before peak holiday flows ... WTF was that if not unnecessary increased state control.
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Post by Cantab on Dec 22, 2021 12:05:56 GMT 12
Utter rubbish. Think about it. Do you really think NZ media would put up with Gvt telling them what they can and can't report?? It doesn't happen here. Well proven when a reporter gets stuck into an MP or Prime Minister or Party and asks the sticky questions. Failure to report something is purely fair and square the Media themselves. They only report news that is news worthy. It is all about Advertising. And re the Communist comment. I am shocked when People make these comments. It is either ignorance, or it is offensive, Offensive to those that live in a real Communist Country. Most of you here should be old enough to know what real Communism is. We live in a Country that has a system called Social Democracy. And we are probably close to the top of Countries in the World that have a fair and free system. And I also cannot believe the comments several of you posts, where one minute you say the Gvt can't keep control or what is happening and the next, you say the Gvt is controlling us via Covid. It can't be both. I lean toward the can't control side. As the saying goes, "they can't organise a shag in a Brothel". You can believe what you like but at least I can put up examples to support my position, ranting more and longer doesn't make your claim true. Reporters don't ask sticky questions anymore, the ones that did never got an answer then don't get anymore questions, open your other eye. Wondered why the shelves at the supermarket were half empty a week or two ago, apparently distribution workers had been on strike for a few days. That sort of thing used to be front and centre, not any more. Watch the video link I posted and tell me its balanced reporting, check a few of the articles on BFD on media funding and bias. Then try make your claims. |
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Post by fish on Dec 22, 2021 15:15:50 GMT 12
Utter rubbish. Think about it. Do you really think NZ media would put up with Gvt telling them what they can and can't report?? It doesn't happen here. Well proven when a reporter gets stuck into an MP or Prime Minister or Party and asks the sticky questions. Failure to report something is purely fair and square the Media themselves. They only report news that is news worthy. It is all about Advertising. And re the Communist comment. I am shocked when People make these comments. It is either ignorance, or it is offensive, Offensive to those that live in a real Communist Country. Most of you here should be old enough to know what real Communism is. We live in a Country that has a system called Social Democracy. And we are probably close to the top of Countries in the World that have a fair and free system. And I also cannot believe the comments several of you posts, where one minute you say the Gvt can't keep control or what is happening and the next, you say the Gvt is controlling us via Covid. It can't be both. I lean toward the can't control side. As the saying goes, "they can't organise a shag in a Brothel". You can believe what you like but at least I can put up examples to support my position, ranting more and longer doesn't make your claim true. Reporters don't ask sticky questions anymore, the ones that did never got an answer then don't get anymore questions, open your other eye. Wondered why the shelves at the supermarket were half empty a week or two ago, apparently distribution workers had been on strike for a few days. That sort of thing used to be front and centre, not any more. Watch the video link I posted and tell me its balanced reporting, check a few of the articles on BFD on media funding and bias. Then try make your claims. Best example of this is Barry Soper. Spat the dummy and walked out of the 1 pm presser. He got so frustrated with the PM deflecting any tough questioning. It is the classic 'hiding in plain site' trick. To tease a point out you need a series of questions, i.e. 4 or 5. PM will only ever allow one. She favours the journo's who ask the patsy questions, very obviously. The journo's know they need to keep the PM on side to keep access to any info at all. Tova O'Brian is the master of this, and Adhern always goes to her first in the pressers. Unsurprisingly, Tova's bosses have recognised this and given Tova a promotion to her own show. Soper always gets bumped to the back of the que... |
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