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Post by sloopjohnb on Jun 6, 2022 13:48:15 GMT 12
hardly a "mark" more of a "stain"
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Post by eri on Jun 8, 2022 17:19:07 GMT 12
The 1News Kantar Public Poll asked: Do you approve or disapprove of the way Trevor Mallard is handling his job as speaker?
Just 17% said they approved, while almost half disapproved. The rest didn't know.
Opposition parties say the Government needs to act.
"This should be the people's house that people have confidence in and people don't have confidence in Trevor Mallard and certainly the National Party doesn't," Chris Bishop said.
"Trevor Mallard's time is up. He's one of very few people who don't realise that now," David Seymour said.
Digging further into the poll numbers and barely over a quarter of Labour's own supporters back Mallard.
He refused interview requests from 1News on Tuesday.
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Jun 9, 2022 3:00:31 GMT 12
Thinking in the box....
Dear Stalinda,
Please keep Mallard , Davis, Mahooter, Silly Jackson, Poopoo Williams, etal the morons in thier positions.
This should finish you and your racist woke Nazi party off!
Thank you
NZ
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Post by armchairadmiral on Jun 9, 2022 7:57:06 GMT 12
Soooo....my question is.....will the National Party have the intestinal fortitude to undo this disaster Labour is perpetrating on NZ (not aotearoa...there's no such word in original maori). Q2 ...will there be anything left once this mob of ideological monsters have gone ?
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Post by eri on Jun 9, 2022 8:30:53 GMT 12
cartoon in stuff today labour's wokesters must be in a spin trying to work out how to get the public to ignore the increase in gangs, guns and youth crime as effectively as they do
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Post by fish on Jun 9, 2022 12:00:54 GMT 12
Soooo....my question is.....will the National Party have the intestinal fortitude to undo this disaster Labour is perpetrating on NZ (not aotearoa...there's no such word in original maori). Q2 ...will there be anything left once this mob of ideological monsters have gone ? I'll answer both your questions with a little anecdote. For shits and giggles, I follow Willie Jackson's FB page. Once a week or so, he will make a post that is complete twaddlebollocks. as in outright spin and lies. Everyone else on the page absolutely love it. If you point out any of the hypocrisy or outright lies, man they get angry. The other day Jackson did a post calling out some guy that called Mahuta a nigger. He went on and on about it. He got super angry and actually replied to me, calling me ignorant and stupid, when I asked how that was any difference to calling David Seymour a useless Maori. Both racial slurs that played the person and not the topic. Then, he got really upset when he was asked on the "Marae" TV programme, how much his tour of the country cost (with all labour Maori MP's) they did to explain to Maori what is in the latest budget for them (i.e. bribes). He never actually said how much the tour cost, but said it was low-brough, and they only ate eggs and bacon. Accept in all the photos there wasn't any eggs and bacon, but crayfish and pulled pork... Asking what he'd done for child poverty and kids who just want enough weet-bix and milk powder to last the whole week, while he's got his snout in the trough, well, that started one hell of a pile on.... This Labour govt have a devoted and committed following. Unfortunately, under our electoral system, these people are allowed to vote. These people are a long, long way from being able to apply logic to anything. The statement is that not everyone thinks like us, in our little echo chamber in this corner of the internet. Luxon is smart enough to understand that. His job is to see where the majority lie, and pander to them. This is why he's not taken a position on ANYTHING. He is bidding his time and 'watching the mood of the room'. It is entirely possible that National will go left of Labour. Esp if he needs Maori seats to govern. Now, I think your first Q is a reflection of 'first past the post' politics. ACT do strongly reflect our little echo chamber here. MMP 101 lesson, if National form a govt, it will be a coalition govt. It will be possible this is a coalition govt with ANY party in parliament, or an independent. This could be the Maori Party (done it before) or possibly the Greens. It is more likely to be ACT though. If ACT poll 6%, they will be like a little poodle, and the coalition govt wont reflect any of their policies. If ACT poll 20%, the coalition govt would be 'National led' but would present a very high proportion of ACT policies and with ACT MP's in senior ministerial positions, most notable Finance. This would enable the "low taxes, small govt" philosophy, and result in the govt getting rid of some of he 14,000 communications specialists employed under Labour. So, I would say, if you want a National govt and no change, vote National. If you want a National govt with lots of change, vote ACT. PS Armchair, you would really enjoy following David Seymour and Brook van Velden on FB, they say stuff you'd really like.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Jun 9, 2022 12:25:05 GMT 12
Thanks Fish. Yep, I get it.However from my experience I'm well aware that political animals like ACT can sit on the sidelines and drop mortars on the mainstream politicians. All care and no responsibility.But once in power they cave in to the bureaucracy. Yes ,this site can be an echo chamber but I find it helpful as what little sanity I retain I preserve by not doing any social media
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Post by ComfortZone on Jun 9, 2022 12:45:23 GMT 12
Soooo....my question is.....will the National Party have the intestinal fortitude to undo this disaster Labour is perpetrating on NZ (not aotearoa...there's no such word in original maori). Q2 ...will there be anything left once this mob of ideological monsters have gone ? I'll answer both your questions with a little anecdote. For shits and giggles, I follow Willie Jackson's FB page. Once a week or so, he will make a post that is complete twaddlebollocks. as in outright spin and lies. Everyone else on the page absolutely love it. If you point out any of the hypocrisy or outright lies, man they get angry. So, I would say, if you want a National govt and no change, vote National. If you want a National govt with lots of change, vote ACT. Interesting re the Willie Jackson story, not surprising in the least. Certainly agree with you that there is a hard core Labour (more like Stalinda) followingInteresting re the Willie Jackson story, not surprising in the least. Certainly agree with you that there is a hard core Labour (more like Stalinda - should never have given women the vote ) following Of note is how the extreme left, the Martin Bradbury's and Chris Trotters are now so critical of Labour The other voting issue/strategy to consider is the Winston wild card, if his regular supporters return to him and he cracks the 5% will his anger at Labour hiding the He Poohapooha from him overcome his utu against National
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Post by eri on Jun 9, 2022 13:31:35 GMT 12
"There is clearly a small group of people who are existing at the margins who believe that they can conduct themselves in a feral way," he told the Herald.
He said the group's behaviour was "antisocial, confronting and intimidating".
"It is outrageous. We put a lot into these people, into their welfare needs to provide them choice, with kai, access to primary health services, every single wraparound service that we can possibly offer is provided - and yet still they expect to just conduct themselves in such a confronting and antisocial manner. It has to stop."www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/councillor-daniel-newman-speaks-out-after-street-fight-in-broad-daylight-in-manurewa/MODVAM5NA5WQNNB2UV4WFOUKB4/removing the consequences of poor choices removes the need to make better ones
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Post by fish on Jun 9, 2022 13:39:30 GMT 12
I'll answer both your questions with a little anecdote. For shits and giggles, I follow Willie Jackson's FB page. Once a week or so, he will make a post that is complete twaddlebollocks. as in outright spin and lies. Everyone else on the page absolutely love it. If you point out any of the hypocrisy or outright lies, man they get angry. So, I would say, if you want a National govt and no change, vote National. If you want a National govt with lots of change, vote ACT. Interesting re the Willie Jackson story, not surprising in the least. Certainly agree with you that there is a hard core Labour (more like Stalinda) followingInteresting re the Willie Jackson story, not surprising in the least. Certainly agree with you that there is a hard core Labour (more like Stalinda - should never have given women the vote ) following Of note is how the extreme left, the Martin Bradbury's and Chris Trotters are now so critical of Labour The other voting issue/strategy to consider is the Winston wild card, if his regular supporters return to him and he cracks the 5% will his anger at Labour hiding the He Poohapooha from him overcome his utu against National Yes, Winston is always the wild card (be interesting to see who is named in the NZ First Foundation fraud trial though). This next election may well bring out an independent or left field party though (not left, but random). Coming out of the Freedom Fighters at the Welly Protest, there is a strong movement of connected, organised and really angry people. Currently there is a rainbow of political wannabees around it, Leigton Baker, Sue Grey, National's Northland guy, The Freedom & Rights coalition (i.e. Destiny). If you combined the focus and nounce of Voices for Freedom with a credibly candidate (prob National's Northland guy), you may well have a potent mix of 'mood for change' combined with grass roots organisation. Refer to the Teals in the Aust election. Out-do the Greens at being green, tap into an un-met demand in the electorate, and Boom, your an MP.
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Post by chariot on Jun 13, 2022 15:20:52 GMT 12
Didn't think the minor reshuffle would go that far. Poto gone, the duck steps down and Fafoi resigns from parliament.
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Post by armchairadmiral on Jun 13, 2022 15:38:14 GMT 12
Chaos and mayhem continues to reign supreme as the chairs get rearranged on the Labour Titanic. Wonder what precipitated Faafoi's fall? The trough he had his snout in you don't give up like that . Williams will be no more trouble for the bimbo and neither will Mallard.The whole lot of them are a public disgrace,they are sticking it to NZ whilst preserving their hides.
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Post by fish on Jun 13, 2022 16:18:10 GMT 12
I can't find "Speaker Trevor Mallard" on FB all of a sudden.
Was wanting to call him a wanker and tell him to fuck off. Can't understand why he would have suspended his FB account...
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Post by fish on Jun 13, 2022 16:19:29 GMT 12
PS, is Chris Hipkins really the only competent Minister Labour has? Judging by this re-shuffle, it certainly looks like that is what Adhern just said.
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Post by Cantab on Jun 13, 2022 17:38:01 GMT 12
PS, is Chris Hipkins really the only competent Minister Labour has?I reject the premise of your question
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