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Post by armchairadmiral on Sept 1, 2022 16:25:43 GMT 12
Fine chance..."better educated crop of political hopefuls ".If they're like that they won't get into politics.Too many brains. Witness for instance Stephen Joyce. Politics seems to be for unemployable academics,low level lawyers & accountants,teachers and party hacks. Few exceptions in between
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 16:25:53 GMT 12
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 17:10:28 GMT 12
Once Con governance kicks in they won't need to protest....
Just go the local marae office ( that was a council office) fill out a SSFLF/22 form (Stealing Some Fucking Land Form 2022) and set up ya Holden commodore house!....
Too easy
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 17:36:05 GMT 12
Once Con governance kicks in they won't need to protest.... Just go the local marae office ( that was a council office) fill out a SSFLF/22 form (Stealing Some Fucking Land Form 2022) and set up ya Holden commodore house!.... Too easy My mate said"should of run them over and claimed brake failure" |
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Post by eri on Sept 1, 2022 17:39:56 GMT 12
bryce rips them a new one 1) The Labour Government lacks transparency
The Government clearly wanted their tax change on KiwiSaver to fly under the radar. It buried the big change in a larger omnibus piece of legislation dealing with lots of tax issues. And when this bill was introduced to the house, an accompanying press statement entirely neglected to mention the biggest and most controversial change that was being made.
2) Labour is out of touch and arrogant
"The politics for the Government were horrible: from a party promising no new taxes, during a cost-of-living crisis where people are seeing their wages disappear into the inflation black hole, as retirement savings plummet amid market turmoil."
3) Labour has lost its way politically
Political parties often make big mistakes with policies when they have lost their ideological compass or anchor. A party that is adrift in a sea of policies can forget what they are in power for.
4) Labour does too much policymaking on the hoof
By some accounts, Labour's proposed tax changes to KiwiSaver were five years in the making. But they gave the impression of a poorly formed policy that was decided and implemented on the hoof.
5) Labour is soft on taxing the wealthy
This backdown makes the Labour government very inconsistent on how GST is applied. This is important because the Government has used the logic of consistency as a reason not to take tax off things like fresh fruit and veges. Their argument for this made sense, but less so now that they are happy to allow financial services an exemption.
6) Labour is untrustworthy on tax
7) Labour is poll-driven and lobbyist-driven
Yesterday, corporate lobbyist Neale Jones, who is very influential with the Prime Minister and Cabinet, was pressuring Labour to quit the tax. He published a tweet in the mid-morning saying Labour had made an "error" with the policy and warned his former colleagues that it was going to be an "absolute gift for the opposition".
"the Prime Minister read the tea leaves pretty quickly on Wednesday morning and got on the phone to tell ministers to tell them to ditch it, hoping there'll at least be some credit for the swift slaughter of a bad idea." A press release was then sent out at 1.16pm to announce the back down.
8) Labour's become too reliant on PR and spin
Various government ministers, some of whom had been active in the media defending the policy in the morning, then came up with a whole list of other people to blame for the policy being withdrawn. The media were at fault for highlighting it, and allegedly "misreporting" the policy, some small KiwiSaver providers were guilty of not publicly speaking out in favour of the policy, and the Opposition was accused of misrepresenting what the Government were trying to achieve. Even IRD and the Treasury somehow got the blame.
Little of this spin-doctoring will resonate much with the public.www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/bryce-edwards-labours-tax-u-turn-paints-a-picture-of-a-dysfunctional-government/AYB4QZYYNOO6HJLZVRSLU72G24/ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 19:49:16 GMT 12
Once Con governance kicks in they won't need to protest.... Just go the local marae office ( that was a council office) fill out a SSFLF/22 form (Stealing Some Fucking Land Form 2022) and set up ya Holden commodore house!.... Too easy My mate said"should of run them over and claimed brake failure" waste of a crap car that! I like driving by and throwing a bag full of house hold waste at them.... If everybody did that it would solve 2 problems... 🤣 |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 19:50:48 GMT 12
bryce rips them a new one 1) The Labour Government lacks transparency
The Government clearly wanted their tax change on KiwiSaver to fly under the radar. It buried the big change in a larger omnibus piece of legislation dealing with lots of tax issues. And when this bill was introduced to the house, an accompanying press statement entirely neglected to mention the biggest and most controversial change that was being made.
2) Labour is out of touch and arrogant
 "The politics for the Government were horrible: from a party promising no new taxes, during a cost-of-living crisis where people are seeing their wages disappear into the inflation black hole, as retirement savings plummet amid market turmoil."
3) Labour has lost its way politically
Political parties often make big mistakes with policies when they have lost their ideological compass or anchor. A party that is adrift in a sea of policies can forget what they are in power for.
4) Labour does too much policymaking on the hoof
By some accounts, Labour's proposed tax changes to KiwiSaver were five years in the making. But they gave the impression of a poorly formed policy that was decided and implemented on the hoof.
5) Labour is soft on taxing the wealthy
This backdown makes the Labour government very inconsistent on how GST is applied. This is important because the Government has used the logic of consistency as a reason not to take tax off things like fresh fruit and veges. Their argument for this made sense, but less so now that they are happy to allow financial services an exemption.
6) Labour is untrustworthy on tax
7) Labour is poll-driven and lobbyist-driven
Yesterday, corporate lobbyist Neale Jones, who is very influential with the Prime Minister and Cabinet, was pressuring Labour to quit the tax. He published a tweet in the mid-morning saying Labour had made an "error" with the policy and warned his former colleagues that it was going to be an "absolute gift for the opposition".
"the Prime Minister read the tea leaves pretty quickly on Wednesday morning and got on the phone to tell ministers to tell them to ditch it, hoping there'll at least be some credit for the swift slaughter of a bad idea." A press release was then sent out at 1.16pm to announce the back down.
8) Labour's become too reliant on PR and spin
Various government ministers, some of whom had been active in the media defending the policy in the morning, then came up with a whole list of other people to blame for the policy being withdrawn. The media were at fault for highlighting it, and allegedly "misreporting" the policy, some small KiwiSaver providers were guilty of not publicly speaking out in favour of the policy, and the Opposition was accused of misrepresenting what the Government were trying to achieve. Even IRD and the Treasury somehow got the blame.
Little of this spin-doctoring will resonate much with the public.www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/bryce-edwards-labours-tax-u-turn-paints-a-picture-of-a-dysfunctional-government/AYB4QZYYNOO6HJLZVRSLU72G24/ 4. Makes Ardern a liar |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 5:23:04 GMT 12
My mate said"should of run them over and claimed brake failure" waste of a crap car that! I like driving by and throwing a bag full of house hold waste at them.... If everybody did that it would solve 2 problems... 🤣 waste of a truck n trailer at 22t empty. There was no protest when they built a bridge and aligned the start of the awakino gorge,(no more single lane tunnel) |
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Post by ComfortZone on Sept 2, 2022 8:10:30 GMT 12
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Post by armchairadmiral on Sept 2, 2022 9:19:40 GMT 12
The BFD headline is wrong. It should read ; You can't trust labour. Historically . The last Labour Govt.that was trustworthy goes back to the 1930's. And in the upcoming election ( if she doesn't appoint commissioners) NZ is going to throw them out (correctly) and the incoming govt. gets elected by default.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 9:23:22 GMT 12
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Post by eri on Sept 2, 2022 15:44:08 GMT 12
for those stopped by the paywall
"The Ardern administration has finally confirmed — were confirmation required — that it is the most incompetent New Zealand Government in living memory, and perhaps ever.
It's a big call. Jenny Shipley's shambolic National Government was propped up in 1998 and 1999 by a bizarre bunch of party-hoppers including one from the far-left Alliance.
Labour embarrassed itself in 1989 and 1990 with two changes of Prime Minister.
Yet, for better or worse, those governments had competently executed change and maintained some sense of direction even at the end.
National's Muldoonist era might rival Jacinda Ardern's circus. But, however controversial, the Clyde Dam, the Waitara and Motunui methanol plants and the Marsden Point expansion were built — in contrast to Ardern's 100,000 KiwiBuild houses, the $30 billion Auckland tram, and the $6.4b Let's Get Wellington Moving programme, for which the Government has allocated a further $120 million for yet another business plan.
Perhaps we're better off those projects are doomed. But the Ardern Government's inability to deliver anything it says it values is surely unique."
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Such indifference about taxpayers' money echoed her reply five weeks ago when asked by TVNZ's Jack Tame about her record of failure on housing, education, poverty, mental health, inequality and vaccine procurement: "I would not ever change the fact that we have always throughout been highly aspirational ... what you're asking me essentially is to shy away from aspiration."
No one asks that. The demand is for basic administrative competence.
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Prolonged border controls destroyed the international education industry, putting the viability of universities at risk. Trades training faces collapse following the bizarre project to set up a Wellington-based super-polytechnic, at a cost so far of $200m, with nothing to show for it.
No one knows what the billions for two new health bureaucracies in Wellington will deliver. We don't know where the $1.9b for mental health went. There is wild talk of writing off student loan debt as an election sweetener.
It won't work. The defeat of the Ardern Government is increasingly likely, and more than deserved.
Labour governments can do many things and survive. Enriching property owners while slashing workers' real wages isn't one."
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Post by eri on Sept 3, 2022 7:45:16 GMT 12
indicative of The Big Government that Labour has become.
The dark side of which is the sense that instead of them working for us, in fact we work for them to increasingly swell their coffers for pet projects.
Thinking they can get away with it shows they’ve entered the Never-La-La-Land phase of the election cycle.
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It also handed the National Party a gift, playing neatly into its narrative that Labour’s addiction to spending must be fuelled by dreaming up new tax grabs.
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A political U-turn where public reaction forced the Government to act quickly can be seen as a plus. The fact that it’s one of many, and is reminiscent of Ardern’s captain’s call in scotching the capital gains tax in April 2019, shows that when presented with either retaining its ideology or staying in power, this party will always choose the latter.www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/129758469/janet-wilson-labour-finds-itself-in-a-conflagration-of-its-own-making
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Post by eri on Sept 3, 2022 16:17:01 GMT 12
"I think they understand this is a Government that is not good with money and not good at managing the economy - they get that and they see that. It's a big driver of what's happening here," he told 1News.
"But I'd also put to you that when we don't have our kids going to school regularly, we see a healthcare system falling apart with wait times blowing out, we see rising levels of crime, and we see housing that, actually, has been an abject failure for this Government, they look at the sum of all of those things."
www.1news.co.nz/2022/08/08/poll-act-jumps-and-can-form-govt-with-national-ardern-and-luxon-slip/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2022 19:08:12 GMT 12
I reject the premise if those truths and facts.
Under my government we have... Umm... Er... Spent lots, talked lots and formed many working groups to talk lots and spend lots on doing nothing.
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