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Jan 28, 2023 11:57:38 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2023 11:57:38 GMT 12
Supply Ukraine with what ever you like."Putun" wont be afraid,just itching to try out a nuke. |
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Mar 21, 2023 12:17:01 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 12:17:01 GMT 12
Having just watched a documentary on Poland (Sobibor) One has to think is this "Putun" revenge on Ukraine?? Sobibor was a Death Camp for Jews ,167000 or more met their death. Seeing how it was run German SS officers and guarded by Ukraine Soldiers who lead them in to the showers and crematorium. Many were Russian Jews. So maybe not straight forward as the West thinks.
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Mar 21, 2023 16:36:55 GMT 12
Post by fish on Mar 21, 2023 16:36:55 GMT 12
Having just watched a documentary on Poland (Sobibor) One has to think is this "Putun" revenge on Ukraine?? Sobibor was a Death Camp for Jews ,167000 or more met their death. Seeing how it was run German SS officers and guarded by Ukraine Soldiers who lead them in to the showers and crematorium. Many were Russian Jews. So maybe not straight forward as the West thinks. Zelensky is Jewish. I'm not following what you are saying here. Putin has so many more strategic issues than something that happened 80 yrs ago. |
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Mar 21, 2023 18:46:53 GMT 12
Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 18:46:53 GMT 12
Having just watched a documentary on Poland (Sobibor) One has to think is this "Putun" revenge on Ukraine?? Sobibor was a Death Camp for Jews ,167000 or more met their death. Seeing how it was run German SS officers and guarded by Ukraine Soldiers who lead them in to the showers and crematorium. Many were Russian Jews. So maybe not straight forward as the West thinks. Zelensky is Jewish. I'm not following what you are saying here. Putin has so many more strategic issues than something that happened 80 yrs ago. Who knows how Putun thinks |
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Jun 24, 2023 11:26:07 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 24, 2023 11:26:07 GMT 12
It appears the Dogs of War are turning on their Masters. This may be worthy of some popcorn: Russia has accused Wagner Group military contractor Yevgeny Prigozhin of calling for an armed mutiny. Authorities in Russia have launched a criminal probe against the owner of the Wagner Group military contractor over his alleged threats to remove Russia’s defence minister. The announcement on Friday follows a statement from Wagner owner Yevgeny Prigozhin accusing Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu of ordering a rocket attack on Wagner’s field camps in Ukraine, where its soldiers are fighting on behalf of Russia. “Huge numbers of our fighters, of our combat comrades, have been killed,” he said. “The evil that the military leadership of the country bears must be stopped. They neglect the lives of soldiers. They forget the word justice.” Prigozhin estimated that 2,000 of his fighter had been killed in the blasts, though he failed to provide evidence for that death toll. His message included a call-to-action that the Russian government has since interpreted as appeal to mutiny. “There are 25,000 of us, and we’re going to figure out why this chaos is happening in the country,” Prigozhin said, indicating that he had more forces in reserve and support from military members. “Everyone is welcome to join. We must end this disgrace.”www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/23/russian-authorities-launch-criminal-probe-into-wagner-group |
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Post by eri on Jun 24, 2023 13:46:53 GMT 12
wow, a civil war during a war is what killed the czar
the russian army heads are sick of being shown up by private armies and so are trying to incorporate wagner against their will
pregozhin seems to be trying to get putin to sack the army top brass and install him?
looks like a suicide mission, what does he know that we don't?
if the army can't bribe 1 of his criminals to poison him they'll bring down their biggest ballistic missiles on to his suspected hideouts
this is the eventually end of surrounding yourself with a bunch of vipers
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or could putin be putting his ukraine exit strategy into action?
pregozhin's march will test the public and the army rank + file's will to continue this war
and if they passive-aggressively refuse to stop the hero of bakhmut from leading a parade to moscow
pregozhin could become pm? (with putin's blessing in exchange for protection guarantees)
the army heads, sho + val, would be found corrupt and court-marshalled for lying to the president and starting the war (poor granddad was LIED to by CORRUPT cronies!)
pregozhin first negotiates a cease-fire and then withdrawal from ukraine (on the condition the west forgives russia now it has a new gov. hahahaha) .....of course russia would try to keep crimea but why would anyone let russia be rewarded for starting europe's biggest bloodbath, since its last bloodbath to end all bloodbaths, 80 years ago?
what could possibly go wrong for pregozhin?
i wouldn't want to be anywhere near him for the next 24hrs
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if pregozin's 5?km convoy is still moving forward tomorrow with the russian air force finding excuses to prevent bombing patriotic russians
the russian army in ukraine will presumably start slowing down their offensive actions and may even stop firing
and if the ukrainian's can open a little corridor to pour their reserves through....
this slaughter could be over
to everyone's relief
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Post by em on Jun 24, 2023 19:26:12 GMT 12
Holy smokes . Two Russian cities under Wagner control as well as the MOD southern control HQ .
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Jun 24, 2023 19:36:11 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 24, 2023 19:36:11 GMT 12
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Jun 24, 2023 19:46:47 GMT 12
Post by eri on Jun 24, 2023 19:46:47 GMT 12
seems putin has placed his bets
after this
when a chunk of russia is still smouldering because patriotic russians attacked patriotic russians
putin will have to make some hard choices
but then, doubling down has always worked for dictators of the past
and as NK has shown, if you starve and brutalize a population enough
you can turn your country into a 60 year concentration camp of the starving
so your grandchildren grow fat enough to die of obesity
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Jun 24, 2023 20:35:46 GMT 12
Post by em on Jun 24, 2023 20:35:46 GMT 12
Cocky bugger I must say .
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Jun 24, 2023 20:56:11 GMT 12
Post by Cantab on Jun 24, 2023 20:56:11 GMT 12
All within hours of the evidence against Biden going public and his impeachment vote.
Just a coincidence?
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Jun 24, 2023 21:15:12 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 24, 2023 21:15:12 GMT 12
All within hours of the evidence against Biden going public and his impeachment vote. Just a coincidence? What is that about? I've not seen anything in the media... |
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Jun 24, 2023 21:18:42 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 24, 2023 21:18:42 GMT 12
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Post by em on Jun 24, 2023 22:49:31 GMT 12
All within hours of the evidence against Biden going public and his impeachment vote. Just a coincidence? I heard Wagner chose Friday night to kick off the Coup because most of the Russian national guard would be on the piss . Not sure if Prigozhin gives a rats ass about Hunter Bidens text ? One hell of a twisted story if that’s the case ! |
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Jun 25, 2023 11:41:56 GMT 12
Post by fish on Jun 25, 2023 11:41:56 GMT 12
Well that de-escalated just as quickly as it kicked off.
The Wagner boss given exile in Balarussia. Everyone backing off.
It would appear the boss thought he had more support in Moscow in the Army and Kremlin. Support either didn't materialize, or it got snuffed out asap, and he had to back out of the plan.
Wonder what the basement torture chamber rooms of the FSB look like at the moment? Probably resemble the average meat-works slaughter floor. There is no way the state security apparatus will let something like this go without a lot of purging and blood letting. Even if people weren't involved / supporting, it is always good to impose control with a few examples and outright fear.
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