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Post by fish on May 15, 2024 19:37:08 GMT 12
I think the media and the prosecution are working angles that aren't there. This article is about a guy that wasn't there, hasn't worked as a commercial skipper and states he was taking the view of a cautious skipper, not a 'reasonable' skipper. Big difference. This is what the Defence noted (from that story). That forecast sounds entirely reasonable. We've all been out in worse. However, Fletcher Pilditch, KC, representing Goodhew, challenged Rowledge’s testimony, citing data from the PredictWind model which suggested Goodhew’s decision to depart was not unreasonable. The PredictWind model put winds at 20 knots, a swell of 2.5m at the time of leaving Three Kings and significant wave heights that were tracking down.
“You’re not suggesting that it would be unreasonable for the mariner to depart, given the conditions that seem to be detected and predicted here?” Pilditch asked.
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Post by harrytom on May 28, 2024 23:09:36 GMT 12
Judge will deliver verdict 11.45 22nd july or sooner.
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Post by GO30 on Jul 1, 2024 15:00:08 GMT 12
Been a bit distracted over the last few days, did any more about this come out or are we still waiting?
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Post by fish on Jul 1, 2024 16:02:03 GMT 12
Been a bit distracted over the last few days, did any more about this come out or are we still waiting? Still waiting.
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Post by harrytom on Jul 22, 2024 11:47:24 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Jul 22, 2024 12:40:49 GMT 12
It'll be interesting to see any reactions, if there are any.
If the Judge is who I think he is then he knows boats, he has/had one of a prominent class, so would be making a more informed decision than many.
A quick read of a MSM report has me thinking the decision seems pretty fair.
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Post by harrytom on Jul 22, 2024 16:42:23 GMT 12
No mention of compensation to families? I can MNZ rewriting the rule book
Pihia ferry crash and fizz has to pay family compensation
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Post by GO30 on Jul 22, 2024 18:21:56 GMT 12
No mention of compensation to families? I can MNZ rewriting the rule book Pihia ferry crash and fizz has to pay family compensation 2 different situations there dude. One was a fuckwit, the other was a fuck up.
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Post by fish on Jul 22, 2024 18:34:59 GMT 12
No mention of compensation to families? I can MNZ rewriting the rule book Pihia ferry crash and fizz has to pay family compensation Erm, that was cause Piahia ferry crash was guilty, blatantly so and Enchanter was found not guilty. Or are you saying we should just turn our justice system on it's head and find an innocent guy guilty just so the dead guy's families can get some dollars?
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Post by Fisherman on Jul 22, 2024 21:36:42 GMT 12
It'll be interesting to see any reactions, if there are any. If the Judge is who I think he is then he knows boats, he has/had one of a prominent class, so would be making a more informed decision than many. A quick read of a MSM report has me thinking the decision seems pretty fair. Dude... the judges name has been known since last year. Used to own a 88 and was president of the 88 association. You can bet he'd have cut the corner in the worst of conditions with complete disregard for a rogue wave - hahaha Bloody y88 skippers 😂😅
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Post by harrytom on Jul 23, 2024 7:21:49 GMT 12
MNZ maybe appealing the decision.
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Post by ComfortZone on Jul 23, 2024 9:18:08 GMT 12
MNZ maybe appealing the decision. They would have to find legal grounds for an appeal, not just that they did not like the judges ruling. Judges with cases like this, particularly where they do not find in favour of the prosecution, are typically very careful in how they write up their ruling to minimise providing any grounds for appeal. In particular it comes down to the case MNZ presented to the judge and the evidence to support it. If they screwed up their case (having to prove Goodhew was guilty of the charges), then he had no option but to find not guilty. An interesting case was the Sealegs vs Orion IP case, where Sealegs lost. To the layman it seemed a pretty clear case of IP theft and the judge in his summary inferred same but basically stated that Sealegs lawyer got the law wrong.
I am sure the Enchanter ruling will be an interesting read.
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