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Post by DuckMaster on Apr 1, 2023 15:11:17 GMT 12
Also 1 less Tesla I see. Witnesses describe popping and jets of flame as the Fire Service tried to get it under control. So that means the battery either let go or let go quickly after some incident. I see 4 BIG motorcar manufacturers have said they have ceased all RnD into EV's and are putting all their resources into hydrogen instead. That maybe why Tesla has dropped it's pants on prices, sell the backlog before people realise they are buying dated technology Which manufacturers? |
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Post by GO30 on Apr 1, 2023 16:16:05 GMT 12
I'm told Toyota, BMW and I think it was VW and Nissan.
Apparently BYD have said it's putting more effort onto Hydrogen than battery now as well. Being the biggest manufacturer of EV's that's quite a call.
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Post by DuckMaster on Apr 1, 2023 16:47:10 GMT 12
Interesting... given that hydrogen is currently deemed to be impractical for so many reasons it will be good for those 4 companies to actually throw some resources at it and either come to the same conclusion or a different one...
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Post by GO30 on Apr 1, 2023 17:21:38 GMT 12
Interesting... given that hydrogen is currently deemed to be impractical for so many reasons it will be good for those 4 companies to actually throw some resources at it and either come to the same conclusion or a different one... Agree on the face of it.
Maybe they know something we don't or see the writing on the wall for EV's so are willing to chuck in big bucks to find the alternative. After all someone thru a shit load at EV's before then became a thing.
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Post by DuckMaster on Apr 1, 2023 17:41:36 GMT 12
Interesting... given that hydrogen is currently deemed to be impractical for so many reasons it will be good for those 4 companies to actually throw some resources at it and either come to the same conclusion or a different one... Agree on the face of it.
Maybe they know something we don't or see the writing on the wall for EV's so are willing to chuck in big bucks to find the alternative. After all someone thru a shit load at EV's before then became a thing.
Until this year Toyota had not produced an all electric car (BEV). All their vehicles have been hybrid of some description. It's interesting that they only this year launched their first BEV, the bZ4X. Or maybe it was late last year. I think they felt they have been left behind. They have been unable to make Hydrogen work. |
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Post by harrytom on Apr 2, 2023 4:46:22 GMT 12
The boy took possession of his Nissan note epower yesterday and very impressive, has a generator(petrol 1.2lt) for charging,38lt tank which is suppoose to give 1000km motoring/charging.$85 so need to stop and charge. Like a hybrid but motor has no driving capability.
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 2, 2023 9:33:53 GMT 12
I'm told Toyota, BMW and I think it was VW and Nissan. Apparently BYD have said it's putting more effort onto Hydrogen than battery now as well. Being the biggest manufacturer of EV's that's quite a call. BMW have been investigating hydrogen for quite sometime and have test fleets out there, eg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Hydrogen_7#:~:text=The%20BMW%20Hydrogen%207%20is,and%20more%20specifically%20the%20760Li. Audi and Mercedes have declared they are going all electric whereas BMW are keeping their options open, still developing ICE's, producing BEV's and continuing Hydrogen development. BMW and Toyota have very close technical ties, the current Toyota Supra is built by BMW on the BMW Z4 platform. www.businessinsider.com/toyota-supra-sells-better-than-bmw-it-borrows-parts-from-2020-4 Toyota have been installing BMW diesels in their UK manufactured cars for quite a few years now |
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 7, 2023 14:05:15 GMT 12
so under pressure from Germany, who in effect is the EU, the EU have started backtracking on the ban on selling Internal Combustion Engine cars after 2035 www.sae.org/news/2023/03/european-ice-banon the condition the vehicles run on bio fuels. When they find they cannot produce enough of that stuff, most likely the next step will be continuing use of hydrocarbon based fuels... Nothing like economic reality to overcome virtue signaling |
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EV farce
Apr 13, 2023 22:01:36 GMT 12
via mobile
Post by sabre on Apr 13, 2023 22:01:36 GMT 12
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Post by fish on Apr 14, 2023 16:46:30 GMT 12
Its just logical really. Horses for courses. |
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Post by harrytom on Apr 15, 2023 4:12:26 GMT 12
Hybrid seems to me to make sense,limiting use of fuel and not relying on grid to charge
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Post by GO30 on Apr 15, 2023 9:36:47 GMT 12
D2 was talking a EV which seems a little weird as she is a girl racer. So we did some numbers.
To be able to put 60kW in to it we'd need spend $43K to get 55 sq/m of quality solar panels and associated bits for them. Plus the charger.
That 60kW charge would take 1 entire good weather summer day. Mid winter it would take a bit over 3 days.
So it appears any plan to get a EV ute, all of which are over 300kW, would mean we'd need to get seriously into drug importation, prostitution, buy a supermarket or get elected as a MP, to fund it.
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Post by em on Apr 15, 2023 14:19:24 GMT 12
D2 was talking a EV which seems a little weird as she is a girl racer. So we did some numbers. To be able to put 60kW in to it we'd need spend $43K to get 55 sq/m of quality solar panels and associated bits for them. Plus the charger. That 60kW charge would take 1 entire good weather summer day. Mid winter it would take a bit over 3 days. So it appears any plan to get a EV ute, all of which are over 300kW, would mean we'd need to get seriously into drug importation, prostitution, buy a supermarket or get elected as a MP, to fund it. Yeah it’s a fools game charging EVs from solar at home . We sometimes charge the PHEV which draws 1.7Kw . you do have to monitor the clouds and switch it off if a good one goes over for longer than 10 mins or it will start taking a good chunk out of battery bank state of charge . We only do it in summer after batteries are 100% and on perfect days which were very rare this summer . |
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Post by GO30 on Apr 16, 2023 13:58:49 GMT 12
We only have 2 options, solar or a 2.3kw petrol genny. Maybe I need to build a bovine powered methane plant.
Spent the morning with electrics. I powered up my new race, which I put in as electric, and trying to work out why the rivers fences are only at 1.5kW. The race and electric fences off that now banging along at 7kW and after some fault finding the river section is running at 5.5kW. Take that you bovine Houdinis!!!!
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Post by sloopjohnb on May 3, 2023 22:27:02 GMT 12
Todays Herald $314.7 M spent on EC Car Discounts........has it stopped 1 raindrop from falling?   |
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