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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 9:59:55 GMT 12
DYC should be OK for a while at least, they have a long term lease and then locals are tight. The Goldhole (shore side under the bridge) was on the chopping block and was about to be turned into a bike path for the bridge crossing we knew wasn't going to happen 15 to 20 million dollars before the Council/Govt got smacked by the reality stick. No idea about out East. PYBC has a long term lease but what is a long term lease?? There was talk that some of the yard might go due to a foreshore walkway and IWI claim. When I was a member there was some talk of how the club should provide facilities to be used by rowing club etc Yachting/boating in general is deemed a rich pricks sport. Reality most vessel under 36ft and value under $40k imo. Trailer boats are up there only due to convenience and relatively buoyant market.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 1, 2022 17:14:24 GMT 12
Some have long term leases like the clubs in Westhaven, they have 30 + years to run on theirs. They pay market rates. But Panwanku is trying hard to get everyone onto community leases. They do that by promising if you swap to one of those the rent will become $1 per year.
But then every 5 years you need to drop and blow some council persons dick to get the lease renewed. Basically a community lease means Panwanku now owns your balls and they are prepared to squeeze them as they desire.
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Post by muzled on Feb 14, 2023 13:23:30 GMT 12
Stolen from crew in the name of a good cause. Hardstand Status Update Unfortunately, the Orakei Local Board are still committed to closing the Hardstand as of the 28th of February, despite: • Having no funding, either within their own budget or Councils LTP (10-year plan) to implement the “park” that they consulted on and gave the impression they would be implementing. • Two public meeting facilitated by the good people at the Auckland Yachting and Boating Association to try and convince the OLB to delay or review their decision (both meetings were attended by literally hundreds of boats and users). • A presentation from Auckland Councils Biosecurity team that recommended that the Hardstand stay open. • Receiving multiple letters, complaints and requests for The Landing to remain open from boating associations clubs and user groups (Auckland Yachting and Boating Association, Yachting New Zealand, Orakei Marina, Marina Operators Association, NZ Marine Industry Association, Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron, Ponsonby Cruising Club, Kennedy Point Marina, Bayswater Marina users, Westhaven Marina users , New Zealand Multihull Association and the myriad of other boat clubs and associations). • Any immediate use for the Hardstand space. One must wonder what some of the boards’ agendas or reasons are? All is not lost though, due to several generous donations and a considerable amount of voluntary time being committed by a very dedicated group spearheaded via the Auckland Yachting and Boating Association, moves are afoot to mount a legally based defence and implement a full investigation into the decision making process that has allowed such a small group of people the ability to rob the greater Auckland region of a considerable regional asset. How can you help? Please donate to the good people at the Auckland Yachting and Boating Associations Give a Little page: givealittle.co.nz/cause/supportthelandinghardstand, even the smallest donation will make a difference.
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Post by dutyfree on Feb 14, 2023 13:37:41 GMT 12
made a donation. My favourite hard stand
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Post by Fogg on Feb 14, 2023 14:52:13 GMT 12
Likewise (made a donation rather than it being my favourite but I understand the sentiment) 😊
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Post by GO30 on Feb 14, 2023 16:48:44 GMT 12
Same. I know the team behind all that and just let them know about the thread and to jump in if they want. Otto on Crew and while it may sound strange, his mum. She has many years under her belt but is a human Energiser Bunny. She has been spending a HUGE amount of time fighting very hard for Akl boaters mostly via the AYBA. She is also at the forefront of fighting that wanker Herbert that owns Bayswater Marina and his ahole development. She also helped me and the team a lot in winning the fight against the cruise ship dolphin they wanted. Plus a lot more. She is a genuine kiwi unsung hero and fully deserves to get a some huge acknowledgement for the work shes been doing for us all and for so long. She is also one of the best race management people I know. When I was Comodore of a Westhaven YC she was often my Go To when I was presented with tricky issue. She has a calm head that dosent rattle easily..or shes good at hiding it . Don't tell her I said that or she grizzle saying she doesn't deserve it, Bullshit, she does 100%.
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Post by otto on Feb 14, 2023 18:52:19 GMT 12
Hi Team, i'm Otto and yes i'm helping my mum. Why? Firstly i went to a meeting about Bayswater marina where i met several who are not young but are exhausted. Not only with Bayswater but The Landing and a list of clubs that Pauku may be reviewing the lease. (yes, wake up and read the last few words there). This SMALL group is spending THEIR OWN money and time fighting for you although it is under the banner of AYBA. But how many are on the AYBA. Second, i grew up boating so why can't my grandkids!! We can't all afford the 50+footers and the haul-outs left will only be for them. As far as access to the water forget it. It will just be housing. Finally, i'm not wealthy and still have to work but i am also getting exhausted with this, Why? I have posted (here now), crew.org, fishing.net and various facebook groups and personally i find the response appalling. You all moan about poor ramps, haul-outs, marine facilities, and possibly loss of clubs but you do nothing except criticize, and usually after we've lost the fight. Pcj, you on here? His quote of "I wouldn't be too concerned about ramps going" shows our pathetic support! He is correct thou, with Bayswater the ramp won't be lost. You just won't be able to use it. I talked to them about engaging in the battle with Bayswater, why? Because the cause and case is the same for all. This is about pushing for a commitment from council to have a plan that existing marine facilities and regional assets that allow marine users to access the water are kept and improved on whether it be for rowing clubs, trailer boats, haul outs or those in marinas. If 1% of the marine users donated $5 they would have funds. But also it would show support. Something that is NOT happening now. 43 supporters at the time of writing this, close the ramps and hardstand, not needed. givealittle.co.nz/cause/bayswater-marina-needs-to-remain-a-marine-precinctgivealittle.co.nz/cause/supportthelandinghardstandFinally i started reading more on this post and now realize why we are loosing so much................
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Post by GO30 on Feb 14, 2023 19:24:06 GMT 12
I know Panwanku wants 3 of the 4 Westhaven clubs gone.
Any word on what others?
And i read the last Westhaven newsletter. Fuck all of marina but a lot of Panwanku social engineering crap. WTF do these twats think their job is? Just run the fucken marina properly for ALl not just 20m imported boring as fuck stinkboats and the councils self fucked over bank balance.
Also they have the audacity to claim Westhaven is the heart of NZ sailing. Panwanku is directly responsible for the decline in sailing on Akl harbour....bunch of delusional aholes.
YNZ is another.
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Post by muzled on Feb 14, 2023 19:36:13 GMT 12
Hi Team, i'm Otto and yes i'm helping my mum. Why? Firstly i went to a meeting about Bayswater marina where i met several who are not young but are exhausted. Not only with Bayswater but The Landing and a list of clubs that Pauku may be reviewing the lease. (yes, wake up and read the last few words there). This SMALL group is spending THEIR OWN money and time fighting for you although it is under the banner of AYBA. But how many are on the AYBA. Second, i grew up boating so why can't my grandkids!! We can't all afford the 50+footers and the haul-outs left will only be for them. As far as access to the water forget it. It will just be housing. Finally, i'm not wealthy and still have to work but i am also getting exhausted with this, Why? I have posted (here now), crew.org, fishing.net and various facebook groups and personally i find the response appalling. You all moan about poor ramps, haul-outs, marine facilities, and possibly loss of clubs but you do nothing except criticize, and usually after we've lost the fight. Pcj, you on here? His quote of "I wouldn't be too concerned about ramps going" shows our pathetic support! He is correct thou, with Bayswater the ramp won't be lost. You just won't be able to use it. I talked to them about engaging in the battle with Bayswater, why? Because the cause and case is the same for all. This is about pushing for a commitment from council to have a plan that existing marine facilities and regional assets that allow marine users to access the water are kept and improved on whether it be for rowing clubs, trailer boats, haul outs or those in marinas. If 1% of the marine users donated $5 they would have funds. But also it would show support. Something that is NOT happening now. 43 supporters at the time of writing this, close the ramps and hardstand, not needed. givealittle.co.nz/cause/bayswater-marina-needs-to-remain-a-marine-precinctgivealittle.co.nz/cause/supportthelandinghardstandFinally i started reading more on this post and now realize why we are loosing so much................ Otto - Apart from money, is there anything else you need? Not sure my skillset will be of much use but no point asking after it's gone.
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Post by GO30 on Feb 14, 2023 19:39:26 GMT 12
Good on ya Muz.
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Post by otto on Feb 14, 2023 19:47:47 GMT 12
Cheers Muzled. Apart from money we need supporters. Lots of $5-10 would be better that a couple of larger ones. (although the larger ones are good, not sure what we've clocked up so far but it in excess of $10k). So share far and wide, or if your good on social media, web-site or feel you can do something lets know.
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Post by Admin on Feb 14, 2023 21:10:00 GMT 12
Cheers Muzled. Apart from money we need supporters. Lots of $5-10 would be better that a couple of larger ones. (although the larger ones are good, not sure what we've clocked up so far but it in excess of $10k). So share far and wide, or if your good on social media, web-site or feel you can do something lets know. I’ve pinned this one to the top for a while to see if that helps. We’re only a small forum of active users but every little bit helps by the sound of it. And we never know who’s lurking 😊
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 23:43:20 GMT 12
Hi Team, i'm Otto and yes i'm helping my mum. Why? Firstly i went to a meeting about Bayswater marina where i met several who are not young but are exhausted. Not only with Bayswater but The Landing and a list of clubs that Pauku may be reviewing the lease. (yes, wake up and read the last few words there). This SMALL group is spending THEIR OWN money and time fighting for you although it is under the banner of AYBA. But how many are on the AYBA. Second, i grew up boating so why can't my grandkids!! We can't all afford the 50+footers and the haul-outs left will only be for them. As far as access to the water forget it. It will just be housing. Finally, i'm not wealthy and still have to work but i am also getting exhausted with this, Why? I have posted (here now), crew.org, fishing.net and various facebook groups and personally i find the response appalling. You all moan about poor ramps, haul-outs, marine facilities, and possibly loss of clubs but you do nothing except criticize, and usually after we've lost the fight. Pcj, you on here? His quote of "I wouldn't be too concerned about ramps going" shows our pathetic support! He is correct thou, with Bayswater the ramp won't be lost. You just won't be able to use it. I talked to them about engaging in the battle with Bayswater, why? Because the cause and case is the same for all. This is about pushing for a commitment from council to have a plan that existing marine facilities and regional assets that allow marine users to access the water are kept and improved on whether it be for rowing clubs, trailer boats, haul outs or those in marinas. If 1% of the marine users donated $5 they would have funds. But also it would show support. Something that is NOT happening now. 43 supporters at the time of writing this, close the ramps and hardstand, not needed. givealittle.co.nz/cause/bayswater-marina-needs-to-remain-a-marine-precinctgivealittle.co.nz/cause/supportthelandinghardstandFinally i started reading more on this post and now realize why we are loosing so much................ Come on "Oto"Pcj, you on here? His quote of "I wouldn't be too concerned about ramps going"Should you not of included the whole text from Fnet. That Quote is totally incorrect and you know it. the actually quote is this. Get it right "Otto" and yes I do believe and will stand by my previous comments,we are seen as rich pricks and the public perception via televised Americs cup racing shows multi million $$ vessels not the average run of the mill vessels. www.fishing.net.nz/forum/topic137167.htmlI wouldnt be too concerned about ramps going. I would be more concerned with Councild using the RMA to stop fishing or IWI only areas. Gisborne lastest to be affected,its up for debate but once in Ministers hands it will all be over. www.fishserve.co.nz/news/fisheries-new-zealand-consultation-proposed-temporary-fishing-closures-at-tangoiro-waihirere-and-motuoroi-north-of-gisborne?fbclid=IwAR1OMdC0-wWn70ocKNy2Zdw1MbJbNiRjjlXw_BaURHHSTcZbbcjWVIJmX8s
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 1:57:48 GMT 12
All this was information was bantered about in 2013 and everyone sat on one hands,someone else will do it,wrong you now have what you deserve. GONE akhaveyoursay.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/the-landingScroll down to concept 3 .all laid out As far as Bayswater ramp, on average 10 users at peak 20 users all the information is out there. Instead of raising public funds to satify a minorty. Be better to to tackle the council to build a better ramp at Takapuna with pontoons and a all wind direction breakwater and car parking,will result in daily charges(like westhaven) or maybe annual subscription. Yes you can pay $20 per day or $100 per yr for KKB ramp. What do green fees cost at your local golf club??
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 7:45:58 GMT 12
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