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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 18, 2023 21:03:39 GMT 12
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Post by em on Dec 18, 2023 23:23:30 GMT 12
Yeah gotta be more cost effective to charter a small jet …Donald trump is about the only other owner of a 757 and it’s had a revamp
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 20, 2023 7:29:52 GMT 12
Latest Roy Morgan poll, purely academic of course but interesting to observe the trends
Party Vote
National 37.5% (-0.6% from election)
Labour 21.0% (-5.9%)
Greens 12.5% (+0.9%)
ACT 12.5% (+3.9%)
NZ First 5.5% (+0.5%)
Te Pāti Māori 2.5% (-0.6%)
TOP 3.5% (+1.3%)
Interesting to see the big gain is by ACT and biggest loss is Labour, with TMP down slightly so all their antics are not pulling in any new support
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Post by Cantab on Dec 20, 2023 7:43:24 GMT 12
Labour and Maori have lost 20 - 25% of their voters since election, small percentage of small percentage is actually a big percentage.
MSM would call that a slight fall in support, some would call it plummeting.
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Post by fish on Dec 20, 2023 8:14:22 GMT 12
Yeah gotta be more cost effective to charter a small jet …Donald trump is about the only other owner of a 757 and it’s had a revamp The cost is one consideration. Most large organisations also have a risk assessment approach. You never send all of your executives on the same jet. If it crashes, your organisation is fucked. (and all your executives). I assume the PM's (all of them, not just Luxon) want to travel by airforce jet since they have such a large group. All their staff, other Ministers and they take journo's as well. There is a massive risk if said unreliable jet crashes, we loose half our MSM and the brains trust of the govt. So if they all took commercial flights, and the group were spread across a handful of the dozens of trans tasman flights, the risk of loosing the govt brains trust is mitigated. I still reckon we should put all the journo's on the old and unreliable airforce jet though... Perhaps one of those 1960's C130's? (we could schedule the 757 for them, then last minute blame a warning light and switch them onto the old Herc) |
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Post by GO30 on Dec 20, 2023 11:28:29 GMT 12
Don't we have a few air force King Airs?
They can take 10ish bods up to 1600nm at 300 odd knots. There abouts.
And do it a lot cheaper than a 757.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 20, 2023 11:32:01 GMT 12
Latest Roy Morgan poll, purely academic of course but interesting to observe the trends Party Vote National 37.5% (-0.6% from election) Labour 21.0% (-5.9%) Greens 12.5% (+0.9%) ACT 12.5% (+3.9%) NZ First 5.5% (+0.5%) Te Pāti Māori 2.5% (-0.6%) TOP 3.5% (+1.3%) Interesting to see the big gain is by ACT and biggest loss is Labour, with TMP down slightly so all their antics are not pulling in any new support Interesting to see those ACT and Labour changes being so big. Act I can see but can't work out why Labour dropped so much though. Maybe some did think they had the books and economy sorted but now see the truth. A guess but possible. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 20, 2023 11:35:05 GMT 12
Yeah gotta be more cost effective to charter a small jet …Donald trump is about the only other owner of a 757 and it’s had a revamp The cost is one consideration. Most large organisations also have a risk assessment approach. You never send all of your executives on the same jet. If it crashes, your organisation is fucked. (and all your executives). like happened to this Australian company a few years ago thewest.com.au/business/mining/a-decade-on-from-tragic-loss-of-sundance-resources-board-in-tragic-jungle-crash-in-republic-of-congo-ng-b881580564zin the early 2000's I was project manager for a junior WA miner and I well remember when organising a site visit for board and senior management, sitting with the company secretary and the 2 of us deciding who should go on which plane to distribute the personnel more or less evenly across the 2 planes. |
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Post by harrytom on Dec 20, 2023 12:09:39 GMT 12
Real easy to get military aircraft or naval vessels even tanks. Drop the bloody anti nuclear bullshit and the Americans will deliver it tomorrow.
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Post by DuckMaster on Dec 20, 2023 12:19:11 GMT 12
Looks like Defence pulled out all the stops to get pencil dick head and his entourage to Canberra.
Must of been a step down for him travelling on a plane that went out of production 2 decades ago.
Hopefully no time at all is wasted discussing 501 deportee's which seems to be the topic of the day.
A government tough on crime would deal with them when they arrive instead of letting them walk free in the community...
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Post by sabre on Dec 20, 2023 13:38:50 GMT 12
Latest Roy Morgan poll, purely academic of course but interesting to observe the trends Party Vote National 37.5% (-0.6% from election) Labour 21.0% (-5.9%) Greens 12.5% (+0.9%) ACT 12.5% (+3.9%) NZ First 5.5% (+0.5%) Te Pāti Māori 2.5% (-0.6%) TOP 3.5% (+1.3%) Interesting to see the big gain is by ACT and biggest loss is Labour, with TMP down slightly so all their antics are not pulling in any new support NZ First is actually up to 8% according to this.. www.roymorgan.com/findings/roy-morgan-nz-election-november-2023 |
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 20, 2023 14:23:33 GMT 12
Latest Roy Morgan poll, purely academic of course but interesting to observe the trends Party Vote National 37.5% (-0.6% from election) Labour 21.0% (-5.9%) Greens 12.5% (+0.9%) ACT 12.5% (+3.9%) NZ First 5.5% (+0.5%) Te Pāti Māori 2.5% (-0.6%) TOP 3.5% (+1.3%) Interesting to see the big gain is by ACT and biggest loss is Labour, with TMP down slightly so all their antics are not pulling in any new support NZ First is actually up to 8% according to this.. www.roymorgan.com/findings/roy-morgan-nz-election-november-2023correct on NZF, I had just copy/pasted from KiwiBlog, so will blame David Farrar for a typo in his report , he should know better as a pollster himself  |
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Post by em on Dec 22, 2023 22:22:28 GMT 12
Don't we have a few air force King Airs? They can take 10ish bods up to 1600nm at 300 odd knots. There abouts. And do it a lot cheaper than a 757. Yeah some charter company here regularly does private medevac flights from the pac islands with king airs . Often go over our place outbound and they do haul ass |
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Post by GO30 on Dec 23, 2023 14:09:50 GMT 12
I'm sure Luxon could chat to his old employer to see if they can operate a nice 20-30 seater which can double as the PM/Ministers ride when required. Brand it up NZ big time with small AirNZ logos so they can use it for fill in work or as part of their charter fleet when not needed by the Govt.
AirNZ will be a mother load cheaper than the Air Force in all regards I'd expect.
As the Govt owns AirNZ it could make that happen if it wanted.
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Post by harrytom on Dec 29, 2023 12:29:28 GMT 12
Ok we have got the 90 days trial back. Does that apply to parliamentarians? including Act/Nat NZF leadership?
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