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Post by armchairadmiral on May 11, 2023 13:51:27 GMT 12
It's a possibility/probability that ACT will cream it and the polls,like Brown / Collins prediction are wrong. After all it's 1000 people only and you don't know what the questions were. When I hear life long Labour voters saying that this is not traditional labour and they will vote ACT it's on the cards that NZ is in for big change in political direction. I hope so. Like the ad for Ford Mustang (EV) when you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. I was going Act/Nat but I'm more tending Act/Act on the basis that will bring change. Unlike the bimbo's change though Seymour has detailed how & what that change will be. Certainly anything to get rid of the division in society.. I heard Seymour personally at a recent meeting and he was most conciliatory towards maori /treaty matters and sounded reasonable...even to me !
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Post by harrytom on May 11, 2023 17:43:57 GMT 12
It's a possibility/probability that ACT will cream it and the polls,like Brown / Collins prediction are wrong. After all it's 1000 people only and you don't know what the questions were. When I hear life long Labour voters saying that this is not traditional labour and they will vote ACT it's on the cards that NZ is in for big change in political direction. I hope so. Like the ad for Ford Mustang (EV) when you do what you've always done you'll get what you've always got. I was going Act/Nat but I'm more tending Act/Act on the basis that will bring change. Unlike the bimbo's change though Seymour has detailed how & what that change will be. Certainly anything to get rid of the division in society.. I heard Seymour personally at a recent meeting and he was most conciliatory towards maori /treaty matters and sounded reasonable...even to me ! Seymour is like Winstone,has a maori background but just wants to get on with it,rather than play the race card.
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Post by Cantab on May 12, 2023 18:51:32 GMT 12
This is depressing
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Post by sloopjohnb on May 12, 2023 20:25:10 GMT 12
Bloody hell Cantab, I just run out of ............ reading that list, someone must have dreamed it up. How could a government be so reckless?
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Post by muzled on May 18, 2023 21:06:08 GMT 12
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Post by jim on May 21, 2023 22:37:19 GMT 12
I just read this and thought "ho hum" then read the first half dozen comments - holy ef if they're representative of mainstream kiwis then this country is looking at another three years of Hipkins n co...https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/132090938/national-has-got-much-bigger-problems-than-an-unpopular-leader?cx_testId=12&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=1#cxrecs_s
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Post by harrytom on May 22, 2023 0:22:36 GMT 12
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Post by ComfortZone on May 22, 2023 8:51:47 GMT 12
Labour MP kicks a massive home goal, yet the mainly stupid media still goes into bat for her thebfd.co.nz/2023/05/22/theres-a-reason-you-dont-do-this/In her original tweet, she claimed that her father would now be able to heat his room. A strange claim, but a claim made nonetheless. The problem for Arena Williams is that Sir Haare Williams lives in Hillpark, the best suburb in Manurewa, on a popular street. Plus the house he lives in has a CV of $1,295,000. That CV is a couple of years old and may well be a couple of hundred grand short of reality but the point is that Arena Williams made out her father is so impoverished he had to choose between paying for medication or heating his room.A quick look in the property records and on Google Maps shows that the allegedly impoverished father of Arena Williams also has a swimming pool. How someone who is struggling to heat a room or pay for prescriptions is able to afford to keep the pool in tip-top condition is beyond my grasp. So, too, his having to pay rates on a $1.3m house.Then there is his Jaguar motor vehicle parked in the carport. Jaguars are not known for their fuel economy. So there is that, too.Apparently mum is also in a high paying job, talk about entitlementitis...
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Post by eri on May 25, 2023 18:27:54 GMT 12
latest poll sees nat/act governing alone
lots of people voting national for their mp, but act as party vote
"to give national some backbone"
chaos in the greens has cost them
as had the rampant nihilistic racism of the racist party
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Post by muzled on May 25, 2023 20:16:46 GMT 12
Greens still at 7%, even with all their internal bitching, hair pulling and calling all white men the root of all evil, should be under half of that.
But that finally seems like a realistic poll.
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Post by ComfortZone on May 25, 2023 22:48:21 GMT 12
latest poll sees nat/act governing alone lots of people voting national for their mp, but act as party vote "to give national some backbone" chaos in the greens has cost them
as had the rampant nihilistic racism of the racist party the poll results don't look like they are going down well with the Mainly Socialist Media
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Post by sloopjohnb on May 28, 2023 23:38:24 GMT 12
In my inbox.
Subject: They are destroying racial harmony in NZ.
Whether we like it or not, we are one people i.e. NZers, but we are of many races and cultures, not just two, and we all need to work together to make NZ a strong and vibrant country for all.
So why is Mr Hipkins & Labour not administering the country for “the benefit of all the people of NZ” instead of just for one section.
The answer to that is dead simple: they are scared of the powerful maori caucus within Labour and the Maori Party.
Labour currently has 62 seats but the maori caucus within Labour hold 15 of those seats. If the maori caucus was to walk from Labour, that would leave Labour with 47 seats.
Maori MPs along with the Maori Party hold the balance of power and they are dictating what gets passed.
So let’s look at just a few things that the Maori Party are promoting on their website.
Ø They want to entrench the Maori seats, force all Maori to register on the Maori electoral roll (a move that would result in a doubling of the number of Maori seats)
Ø Establish a Maori Parliament.
Ø Control of all water, fresh including the sea out to 12 nautical miles
Ø Re-open the Treaty settlement process, enabling tribal claims on private land.
Ø Transfer the conservation estate (DOC) to Maori.
Ø Waitangi Tribal recommendations would become binding on the Government (giving the Tribunal superior legal status to Parliament),
Ø Change New Zealand’s name to Aotearoa by 2026 (even though it was never ever called that name by Maori. The origin of the word “Aotearoa” came from a Pakeha in the late 1800’s).
Ø Replace all “Pakeha names” for cities, towns & roads to maori by 2026.
Ø Compulsory teaching of Te Reo Maori in all classes up to year 10 (secondary school)
Ø Require all Primary Schools to have 25% of their curriculum by 2026 and 50% by 2030 in Maori.
Ø Require all state broadcasters across all mediums to have a basic fluency of Te Reo Maori to be employed.
Ø Te Reo Maori must be visible and used in all places such as T.V. radio, road signs, maps and the education system.
Ø Using Maori for naming of Govt departments
Ø A new constitution based on the Treaty of Waitangi. Their ambition to control the country - this represents a significant threat to New Zealand’s future.
If these extremists succeed with a written constitution based on the Treaty, it would be a disaster for this country – according to constitutional law expert David Round
It remains a tragic fact that most New Zealanders are unaware of the threat that a new written constitution represents. Currently, the constitution we operate under not only guarantees the sovereignty of Parliament, but it provides a powerful democratic safeguard - if our government runs amok, we can vote them out at the next election.
Labour and the Maori Party are adopting and implementing their “He Puapua 2040” plan. He Puapua has an extremely dangerous, racist, and separatist agenda, as it does not only divide the nation, but in some cases gives Maori 50% of the power, and it does away with “one law for all”, and, “one vote per person”.
Recognising the danger to the country posed by the Maori Party’s separatist agenda, the National Party leader Christopher Luxon has finally ruled out working with them after the election:
Like shifting sands, New Zealand’s political parties are readying themselves for the most important election of our time.
The election result this year has to give New Zealand a strong centre right government to turn the tide on the damage that has been done, repeal all race-based legislation that has been implemented by the current govt, to prevent the continued eroding of race relations amongst the people of NZ, and to entrench “one law for all”, and “one vote per person” back into the system.
SO PLEASE THINK VERY CAREFULLY WHO YOU GIVE YOUR PARTY AND YOUR ELECTORATE VOTE TO THIS YEAR
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Post by muzled on May 29, 2023 8:26:56 GMT 12
Ø Establish a Maori Parliament. Ø Control of all water, fresh including the sea out to 12 nautical miles Ø Re-open the Treaty settlement process, enabling tribal claims on private land. Ø Transfer the conservation estate (DOC) to Maori. So they just want total control then. Seems fair... 🤣
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Post by eri on May 29, 2023 8:59:16 GMT 12
and of course they don't want to actually do the work involved in running all that, they couldn't
like when they sold off their fishing quotas, so a few elite got rich and the rest got unemployment
all they want is money
LOTS of money
the soul-sapping inefficiencies and waste of; corruption, nepotism and tribalism continue to hold back many parts of the world from achieving their potential
what evidence do the short-sighted here have, that forcing it through by law here, would do anything but suck even more energy out the productive class
as they give-up trying to get ahead in a system that is geared against them from birth
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Post by muzled on May 30, 2023 19:41:41 GMT 12
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