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Post by eri on Dec 1, 2021 12:20:13 GMT 12
Team New Zealand's nemesis Alinghi is back in the America's Cup after an 11-year absence.NZME understands the Swiss syndicate has paid the initial $1.47 million entry fee for the 37th America's Cup, on the day entries have officially opened. NZME has been told they are working to secure an old practice boat.www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/exclusive-alinghi-enters-americas-cup-after-11-year-absence/Z5UL3E2G4HET2H5CALJV4STCJM/wonder if they'll be buying a prada boat? they seem very close ... The cost of entry, totalling around $12 million, is thought to be a major deterrent to potential new challengers and flies in the face of promises of cost savings.
Entrants must pay a second payment of $1.83 million by September 21 next year and if paid in instalments, the cost will rise to $2.05 million.
Entrants must also pay a website contribution of $150,000, a America's Cup Properties International (ACPI) contribution of $25,000, a $1.47 million performance bond, three $293,000 preliminary regattas entry fees, buy an AC40 yacht package at a maximum cost of $1.85 million
and buy two hydrogen-powered support vessels at a cost of $2 million each.
There are also a number of shared costs such as weather and recon costs that have yet to be determined.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 1, 2021 18:22:15 GMT 12
A month or 3 back I was told there was a bunch of NZers looking at mounting a challenge. The source seemed to know stuff I thought was stuff Rangi Average wouldn't but as the waterfront has more rumours than it has of anything else.
But this afternoon I was chatting to a mate offshore whose has been part of the circus and he made 2 comments that now has me thinking the above may be more than a rumour.
Anyone seen/heard/whatever anything that may suggest there could be another team lurking?
Anyone know if the rule Emirates brought into block any NZ team having a crack still exists?
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Post by Fogg on Dec 1, 2021 19:49:50 GMT 12
Are you saying there’s potentially something brewing domestically that’s separate to the Mark Dunphy ‘thing’?
In other words whilst Dunphy is making a noise about replacing TNZ as the defender there’s a different NZ crowd contemplating a NZ challenge?
Or could the Dunphy crowd have decided to abandon their attempt to replace TNZ via the courtroom but instead challenge them on the water as TNZ v2?
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Post by GO30 on Dec 2, 2021 16:36:48 GMT 12
Are you saying there’s potentially something brewing domestically that’s separate to the Mark Dunphy ‘thing’? In other words whilst Dunphy is making a noise about replacing TNZ as the defender there’s a different NZ crowd contemplating a NZ challenge? Or could the Dunphy crowd have decided to abandon their attempt to replace TNZ via the courtroom but instead challenge them on the water as TNZ v2? Don't know bugger all but the rumour a wee way back. It was only when a mate said a couple of things I added 1+1 and got 1, 3 but also maybe a 2.
I'm talking to him again on the weekend, I'll see what I can prise out, if anything.
It's not a big stretch to think there is a possibility maybe Dunphy has decided on a 'fuck you Dalton' and gone a differing route. But I think that's a bit of a longshot, especially at the moment considering the machinations going on in the Squaddy at the moment over Daltons team.
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Post by GO30 on Dec 3, 2021 14:51:27 GMT 12
Just chatted to mate and he's being very cagey. He says he has been asked if he's interested in working with a team. When asked what team he just said 'a new one based below the equator' but won't say anything more. He did rule out Alingi, which means his geography has improved a shit load since school Mind you it is entry open time and traditionally there are one or 3 teams who pop up but rarely go on to become more than a newspaper story.
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Post by eri on Dec 3, 2021 15:34:12 GMT 12
Italian syndicate Luna Rossa (5) have confirmed they'll take another shot at claiming the Auld Mug after announcing their registration for the next America's Cup.
The announcement comes after American Magic (3) earlier this week signalled their intent to challenge again and former holders Alinghi (4)reportedly submitted their own application.
Sir Ben Ainslie's INEOS Team UK (2) is also already part of the next regatta as the challenger of record.
Teams have until July 31 next year to enter, though late entries will be accepted up until May 341, 2023 - at an added cost.
A decision on the location of the regatta is also expected by March 31 with Cork in Ireland, Jeddah in Saudi Arabia and a multi-city bid from Spain in the running along with the distant hopes of a repeat in Auckland.
www.1news.co.nz/2021/12/03/luna-rossa-confirm-entry-for-next-americas-cup/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 16:26:37 GMT 12
The cup contains $14k of silver.Hmm melt it down and start again??The is in the Squaddy so tell Dalts defend it here or we are not handing it over. At Daltons age he has only one thing on his mind ."Whats in it for me/my bank account"
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 3, 2021 19:56:48 GMT 12
yeah but how much do you need in the bank at his age? ? or is it just greed?
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Post by eri on Dec 3, 2021 22:05:56 GMT 12
his point seems to be
that a poorly funded defence here has more chance of losing the cup
than a well funded defence overseas
i don't know enough either way to judge
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Post by dutyfree on Dec 5, 2021 11:58:45 GMT 12
I was told from a very good source you need about $100m+ NZ to win. Hence needing overseas sponsors, hence needing to race overseas. The NZ viewing audience is not relevant. Just look at F1, most teams based in UK, sponsors from around the world, race everywhere there is money.
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Post by eri on Dec 6, 2021 15:51:15 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Dec 6, 2021 19:06:43 GMT 12
I was told from a very good source you need about $100m+ NZ to win. Hence needing overseas sponsors, hence needing to race overseas. The NZ viewing audience is not relevant. Just look at F1, most teams based in UK, sponsors from around the world, race everywhere there is money. Every team that raced the last AC had primary and secondary sponsors who were not from NZ yet they all raced in NZ.
If billionaires are more than willing to continually back losers what's stopping them backing a team that wins some?
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Post by ComfortZone on Dec 6, 2021 19:07:38 GMT 12
. Just look at F1, most teams based in UK, Bit of drift here, it is interesting how that is the case, I believe all the majors, apart from Ferrari are based pretty close to each other in the Midlands. I wonder if it is because there is a more innovative spirit and greater capability to develop prototypes faster and without going thru the dozens of committees. I have always regarded the English/Scots as truly innovative engineers, but terrible production engineers
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Post by sloopjohnb on Dec 7, 2021 8:46:06 GMT 12
There was nothing wrong with the British IC engines from the 50's & 60's except for the oil leaks.
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Post by Fogg on Dec 7, 2021 9:51:29 GMT 12
Wasn’t it the French who got good with the first turbo F1s eg Renault?
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