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Post by em on Sept 18, 2023 20:21:29 GMT 12
Yeah it’s solid, the stringers and are rectangular section GRP 20mm wall thickness apparently the hull is an inch solid GRP but I will confirm that later in the summer .All the bulkheads and doors , sole etc are 18mm ply . At 14 tons it’s a tad overbuilt . Havent really had the chance to take pics , we’ve only been out twice due to weather and time constraints .
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Post by em on Sept 18, 2023 20:25:44 GMT 12
Nice. Many of those older Euro boats were built in v solid GRP and are still going strong all over the world. Before they built them bendy. Pics? Only photo I’ve got . Got plenty of engine sump pics and upside down gearbox bolt patterns etc . Attachments:
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Post by Fogg on Sept 18, 2023 21:30:30 GMT 12
Nice. Is this the longest boat you’ve owned? If so, I think you’ll enjoy the waterline length and the benefits that come with that.
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Post by Fogg on Sept 18, 2023 21:47:59 GMT 12
Yeah it’s solid, the stringers and are rectangular section GRP 20mm wall thickness apparently the hull is an inch solid GRP but I will confirm that later in the summer .All the bulkheads and doors , sole etc are 18mm ply . At 14 tons it’s a tad overbuilt . Havent really had the chance to take pics , we’ve only been out twice due to weather and time constraints . Fogg is also 50ft and close to 14t. Doesn’t hold her back much though.
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Post by em on Sept 18, 2023 22:19:19 GMT 12
Nice. Is this the longest boat you’ve owned? If so, I think you’ll enjoy the waterline length and the benefits that come with that. Yeah first keeler we’ve owned and twice the size of our trailer yacht . We started looking at 40 foot boats but had a go at negotiating on this one and got it within our budget . We will work down in size ! Too old to work up this late in life . Main benefit will be taking the kids cruising they never got into the racing and the race boat isn’t really suited to more than an overnight trip .
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Post by Fogg on Sept 19, 2023 13:32:51 GMT 12
Main benefits you’ll notice are your normal speeds will be in the 6-8kts range both under engine and sailing (depending on conditions of course). If you going under 6kts usually something is wrong.
Also the extra waterline length and weight gives you more resilience at anchor (provided you have your ground tackle sorted). In other words you don’t need to worry so much about squeezing into the most sheltered anchorage in the bay in between all the plastic driftwood (Rivitimos). You’ll ride comfortably hanging a bit further out away from the crowds in your own space.
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Post by em on Sept 22, 2023 9:08:47 GMT 12
Main benefits you’ll notice are your normal speeds will be in the 6-8kts range both under engine and sailing (depending on conditions of course). If you going under 6kts usually something is wrong. Also the extra waterline length and weight gives you more resilience at anchor (provided you have your ground tackle sorted). In other words you don’t need to worry so much about squeezing into the most sheltered anchorage in the bay in between all the plastic driftwood (Rivitimos). You’ll ride comfortably hanging a bit further out away from the crowds in your own space. Yeah definitely gets along under power . It was hitting 4 knots at idle but I wound it down a bit after new gearbox install for smoother shifting . Cruising speed is 7.5 not sure of top speed yet , the only time I gave it full jandal was against a strong tide with GPS speed only . I don’t bother putting the speed paddle wheel insert in . As for sailing , on the way up from Auckland it trundled along at 7 knots in 15 knots of breeze on a reach which was pleasantly surprising . I’m not expecting great upwind performance , the keel is short at 1.8m and is a “kookaburra” wing keel .
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Post by dutyfree on Oct 3, 2023 19:35:11 GMT 12
Main benefits you’ll notice are your normal speeds will be in the 6-8kts range both under engine and sailing (depending on conditions of course). If you going under 6kts usually something is wrong. Also the extra waterline length and weight gives you more resilience at anchor (provided you have your ground tackle sorted). In other words you don’t need to worry so much about squeezing into the most sheltered anchorage in the bay in between all the plastic driftwood (Rivitimos). You’ll ride comfortably hanging a bit further out away from the crowds in your own space. Hey, us Rivs anchor close because we can
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Post by ComfortZone on Oct 3, 2023 20:06:09 GMT 12
Main benefits you’ll notice are your normal speeds will be in the 6-8kts range both under engine and sailing (depending on conditions of course). If you going under 6kts usually something is wrong. Also the extra waterline length and weight gives you more resilience at anchor (provided you have your ground tackle sorted). In other words you don’t need to worry so much about squeezing into the most sheltered anchorage in the bay in between all the plastic driftwood (Rivitimos). You’ll ride comfortably hanging a bit further out away from the crowds in your own space. Hey, us Rivs anchor close because we can we can also anchor close in if we choose to, thanks to our "secret weapon". 1.5m draft board up, about 2.8m board down.
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Post by em on Oct 5, 2023 7:27:06 GMT 12
Hey, us Rivs anchor close because we can we can also anchor close in if we choose to, thanks to our "secret weapon". View Attachment1.5m draft board up, about 2.8m board down. Shit ! She must go to windward like an anchor salesman in a shagsong ute
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Post by dutyfree on Oct 5, 2023 21:20:10 GMT 12
1.1m for us Bit expensive to hit, no keel to protect spinning and directional stuff lol
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Post by muzled on Mar 28, 2024 13:52:03 GMT 12
Just got the latest price increase from Westhaven/poonookoo. This is for a 12m pole mooring berth, it feels like they really missed a trick here. 12m (39'4") $21.50 $666.50 Surely it should be 12m (39'4") $21.50 $666.66
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Post by fish on Mar 28, 2024 15:39:53 GMT 12
Just got the latest price increase from Westhaven/poonookoo. This is for a 12m pole mooring berth, it feels like they really missed a trick here. 12m (39'4") $21.50 $666.50 Surely it should be 12m (39'4") $21.50 $666.66 That $666.50, how long is that for? 3 months? 6 months? And when you say a pole mooring, do you mean a marina berth with a finger, or do you mean the pile moorings that you have to take a dinghy to? While my club mooring costs have gone up substantially, I think $1,50 ish is annually plus $330 membership is fairly good compared to, what $8k / year to park your boat in a marina (assuming you are paying $666.66/month for a berth). No wonder the price / market for older kiwi designed & built boats is stuffed. If you have to pay $8k to park it, $3k to insure it and $3k to antifoul it, you may as well get a $1mil euro trash boat and enjoy the extra space and features. Ownership costs are the same fairly much.
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Post by muzled on Apr 15, 2024 14:29:48 GMT 12
Further to CZ's post in the innersting boats section about hauling out.
I was looking at prices to haul at GH vs West harbour vs Marsden cove.
16m haul at GH is $1050 return and $150 on the hard.
That was the first one I looked at, jeesus wept.
But West harbour is more again. $1234 to haul (return) and $248/day!
Good incentive to get floating again I guess.
Marsden cove is $315 each way and $49/day.
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Post by ComfortZone on Apr 15, 2024 14:39:16 GMT 12
Further to CZ's post in the innersting boats section about hauling out. I was looking at prices to haul at GH vs West harbour vs Marsden cove. 16m haul at GH is $1050 return and $150 on the hard. That was the first one I looked at, jeesus wept. But West harbour is more again. $1234 to haul (return) and $248/day! Good incentive to get floating again I guess. Marsden cove is $315 each way and $49/day. I don't have current rates but 12 mths ago Robertsons charged me (ex GST), for 14.5m Lift and return $484 Waterblast $100/hr Hardstand $53/day When I can get current rates will post
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