Hamas invasion

So I'm totally confused and can not get a straight answer.

Didn't Jacinda swap him a pair of hers for a ride in his jet?

In my view there is a fundamental difference between Hamas and the average Palestinian trapped in Gaza. 
It is the difference between Te Parti Maori and the rest of NZ. Possibly not to such an extent, but my point is that all Palestinians are not Hamas. This is why there are international laws around collective punishment.

My fear is where this is going. At a strategic level, I can only see Israel's brutality creating the next generation of Hamas Terrorists. If you are a child and your whole family is wiped out, your house and your city destroyed, I can imagine that will motivate you to do disgusting things to the people that did disgusting things to you. The only logical end goal to prevent that is for Israel to kill everyone in Gaza. That clearly falls into the definition of genocide.

As for the fake deaths, sure that may be happening. Equally it may be Israel's media office putting that stuff out. We know Israel blatantly lie all the time. We also know they assassinate any journalist that makes them look bad. I can provide details and links of those points if that truth gets someone's panties in a knot. Putting aside sources of news, fake news and propaganda we do know certain things as fact:

1) Israel has dropped billions of dollars worth of bombs onto one of the most densely populated areas on earth.
2) No one can leave Gaza, they are trapped there.
3) Israel is deliberately starving the population, including cutting off water supplies. They said so themselves.

Militarily, we know that Israel have only rescued 1 hostage after 5 weeks. We haven't seen any footage of captured Hamas fighters being paraded about, and we have no information if Israel is making any progress in destroying Hamas.
I would put an argument that Israel's current approach is not working. What we do know is there is a shit-tonne of collateral damage. We can squabble over the death toll, but we know it is high, and disproportionately kills women and children.

What shocks me is when the Serbs where doing this in Sarajevo the Western world were up in arms, and mobilised Nato forces. Now Israel is doing it, the Western world openly supports it and supplies billions of dollars of weapons to be used for the killing.

After 5 weeks it is becoming clear that Israel wont get their hostages back by carpet bombing Gaza. I fear that many of those hostages have probably been killed by Israel's bombs.

I've no problem with Israel seeking to destroy Hamas, but they are doing right now isn't working. The Israeli people have lost their humanity in what they are doing. A new approach is needed, and that needs to start with a ceasefire.

This is an important point, and worth understanding.

I've seen Netanyahu say this too. The fact of the matter is it is Israeli bombs and guns that are killing the Palestinians. Blaming it on the other religious fundamentalists is disingenuous. The Hamas nutters aren't flying the F16's and pushing the little red button that releases the bombs.

You can't justify killing innocent bystanders because your enemy uses them as a human shield. They are still innocent bystanders.

Please don't get me wrong, I am disgusted by Hamas. But it is Israel that are doing the killing right now. About 15,000 dead at last count. But most people glaze over at numbers like that. It is difficult to comprehend just how big a pile of bodies that is. If they were cattle, it would take the average NZ meat works 3 weeks to kill them and cut them up.

I understand they want to destroy Hamas. Zero issue with that. BUT all of the Hamas leadership are living in luxury apartments in Qatar. Not sure how pounding Gaza is going to affect them. It doesn't. And everyone knows Hamas leaders are living in Qatar, its no secret.

The Palestinians are stuck there. They can't leave. The people, the kids and women, they can't control what Hamas do. If they speak out they'll just get shot.

But lets look at military strategy. Israel rescued ONE hostage by bombing the fuck out of Gaza. Since they have started talking, they've got 50 hostages. Imagine, words are stronger than bombs. I hate to think how many Israeli hostages have been killed in the carpet bombing. It would be a large number I fear. What isn't widely covered is that Israel have about 20,000 Palestinians as hostages sorry, prisoners. Hamas want them back, just as Israel want their hostages back. Those 20,000 are all held without trial on military charges. It is apparent many are being beaten and tortured for information as well.

Some context, the architect of the Hamas terror attack was held by Israel for 20 years. And people wonder where the anger comes from?
Two wrongs don't make a right, but Israel have lost their morality in what they are doing.

The 12,000 alleged casualties quoted by Fish are unverified numbers put out by Hamas, swallowed by the Mainly Stupid Media.
Why has Hamas started handing over more hostages, because Israel is really starting to hurt them and the talking will likely be along the lines of "if you don't keep handing them over we will hurt you even more"!
As for "innocent Palestinians", this opinion piece presents a position reflecting on history
thebfd.co.nz/2023/11/27/gazans-should-count-themselves-lucky/
excerpt
And when, as Hamas’ apologists will, Morgan spluttered and pontificated about “Palestinian civilians”, Murray brutally reminded him that Palestinian civilians lined the streets of Gaza to cheer Hamas’ butchers like returning heroes. They laughed and hooted with glee at livestreams of the atrocities. They jeered and spat and kicked the corpse of raped and murdered Shani Louk as she was paraded as a victory trophy on the back of a truck.
At least German civilians retained enough semblance of decency to pretend zey knew nuzzink. When the liberating Americans frog-marched nearby German villagers through the death camps, they wept and retched. Palestinians laughed and handed out sweets.

Why Palestinians and Hummas, why not just one or the other?

I believe there was an election where the Palestinians voted Hammas in as their Government which would them make them one and the same. Also only a week or 2 back they polled a shed load of Palestinians and over 60% of them would vote for Mummas again if an election was held tomorrow sort of thing. So surly that only reinforces Palestinians and Hummas are one in the same. Yes some Palestinians do object to Hummas but then many Israelis object to their Govt murdering babies as well.

The deeper I get the more the muppets on one side mirror the muppets on the other. So I agree with whoever above who said empty the place entirely and do a hard reset.

Even easier, someone tell Willie Jackson, Tau Henare, Whackjob Davidson, Chloe who'll see how Hummas likes lesbos, one of the bombs appears to have opened up an ancient Maori midden. It won't take them long to fuck the are up to the point everyone will agree to nuke it.