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Post by em on Nov 7, 2024 16:55:03 GMT 12
So the republicans have the House now along with the Senate and a Supreme Court of hand picked republican judges who wont and cant prosecute the president for any crime . I can’t see how there can be any meaningful opposition from the Democrats under those circumstances .
The place is fucked , every bugger is going to want to have that ultimate power . I’m picking Trump will get moved along fairly quickly so Vance can take over . Looking at the makeup of who’s possibly heading which departments , it’s going to be chaos .
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Post by Cantab on Nov 7, 2024 17:20:57 GMT 12
Try this, might help next time.
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Post by em on Nov 7, 2024 17:44:44 GMT 12
Try this, might help next time. I didn’t vote Democrat mate and my fears are for my future daughter in laws family in Germany and my partners extended family and our friends in the UK . To a lesser extent I don’t think it’s going to work out well for NZ either in the long term . Those are my core reasosn for dumping on Trump and co . |
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Post by harrytom on Nov 7, 2024 17:47:48 GMT 12
I disagree. I think election results all around the world show that most countries are ready for leaders of different gender or race to the past. It was just another case of the ‘silent majority’ of middle-classes voting with their feet. All around the world - if you don’t appeal to the middle classes - you’re toast. Nothing to do with gender. I certainly wouldnt of voted for her. I would never vote for a woman again. Now if American's had used their brains, they would of re elected Trump at last election and he have to step down at this one. |
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Post by Cantab on Nov 7, 2024 18:01:55 GMT 12
Try this, might help next time. I didn’t vote Democrat mate and my fears are for my future daughter in laws family in Germany and my partners extended family and our friends in the UK . To a lesser extent I don’t think it’s going to work out well for NZ either in the long term . Those are my core reasosn for dumping on Trump and co . How did they go under Biden? I work with people from Germany and UK, pretty sure they are happy with this outcome. Time will tell, we don't really have a say in it. |
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Post by em on Nov 7, 2024 18:03:13 GMT 12
Try this, might help next time. Some may find solace and gratification in that he’s the antithesis of Jacinda Ardern and by turn Kamala Harris but that’s twisted logic in my opinion . Two wrongs don’t make a right as fish said . |
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Post by em on Nov 7, 2024 18:11:28 GMT 12
I didn’t vote Democrat mate and my fears are for my future daughter in laws family in Germany and my partners extended family and our friends in the UK . To a lesser extent I don’t think it’s going to work out well for NZ either in the long term . Those are my core reasosn for dumping on Trump and co . How did they go under Biden? I work with people from Germany and UK, pretty sure they are happy with this outcome. Time will tell, we don't really have a say in it. Well their govts weren’t on a war footing and that may change in the coming days or weeks . |
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Post by em on Nov 8, 2024 6:50:38 GMT 12
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Post by GO30 on Nov 8, 2024 7:47:03 GMT 12
I disagree. I think election results all around the world show that most countries are ready for leaders of different gender or race to the past. It was just another case of the ‘silent majority’ of middle-classes voting with their feet. All around the world - if you don’t appeal to the middle classes - you’re toast. Nothing to do with gender. 100% agree.
While a very small number will vote on gender the vast majority won't have.
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Post by GO30 on Nov 8, 2024 7:50:28 GMT 12
I disagree. I think election results all around the world show that most countries are ready for leaders of different gender or race to the past. It was just another case of the ‘silent majority’ of middle-classes voting with their feet. All around the world - if you don’t appeal to the middle classes - you’re toast. Nothing to do with gender. I certainly wouldnt of voted for her. I would never vote for a woman again. Now if American's had used their brains, they would of re elected Trump at last election and he have to step down at this one. That is wrong on so many levels dude. Just because one was a horror show it doesn't mean all are or will be.
If Amercans had any brains the 2 candidates put up for the contest wouldn't have been the 2 that were.
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 8, 2024 7:52:44 GMT 12
So the republicans have the House now along with the Senate and a Supreme Court of hand picked republican judges who wont and cant prosecute the president for any crime . I can’t see how there can be any meaningful opposition from the Democrats under those circumstances . Just to correct you on one point, the Supreme Court does not undertake prosecutions, it hears a very few cases, usually of a constitutional basis, which have been pushed up thru the lower courts. Prosecutions are brought by the Department of Justice and states' public prosecutors.
There are currently 9 Court members, 2 appointed by Bush admin, 2 by Obama, 3 by Trump and the last by Biden (the black woman who could not/would not define "a woman" in her Senate appointment hearing. Judges hold their appointments for life per the constitution, not necessarily a good idea
Rulings from the Supreme Court are not necessarily partisan, some have seen appointees from the Republicans siding with the Democrats, not so much the other way though. Just the same as NZ, the Democrat appointed judges are firm adherents to the practice of judicial activism.
Looking forward to some serious swamp draining, following the lead of Milei in Argentina
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Post by GO30 on Nov 8, 2024 8:07:17 GMT 12
Some may find solace and gratification in that he’s the antithesis of Jacinda Ardern and by turn Kamala Harris but that’s twisted logic in my opinion . Two wrongs don’t make a right as fish said . There are a couple of post result commentaries by pundits who do suggest one of Kamalas mistakes was taking advice from Ardern.
I see some very distinct similarities between Trump and Ardern. Mind you anyone wanting positions like that do share lots in common even if they are on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 8, 2024 8:18:33 GMT 12
I certainly wouldnt of voted for her. I would never vote for a woman again. Now if American's had used their brains, they would of re elected Trump at last election and he have to step down at this one. If Amercans had any brains the 2 candidates put up for the contest wouldn't have been the 2 that were.
That' because the whole system is stacked against the sort of people who would make far better candidates, particularly on the Republican side of politics. In the case of Republicans as a candidate you would know you are going to be torn limb from limb by the media and defamed everyway possible, so why would you bother leaving what is probably a very successful "private" life. Dopeycrats tend to be swamp creatures/professional politicians (just like the Labour crowd in NZ) who rise to the top by striking deals and back stabbing each other, in spite of their mediocrity.
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Post by muzled on Nov 8, 2024 15:21:22 GMT 12
Not sure who this guy is but bloody fascinating read. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/10_reasons_why_trump_won-_part_1.htmlCouple of snippets, Harris must be as tone deaf as they come. The left’s obsession with trans rights was personified by Harris when she bragged that when she was Attorney General of California, she arranged for the State to pay for trans gender surgeries for inmates.
A stark divide opened up between Harris and Waltz (who installed tampons in boys’ toilets in all public schools across Minnesota hence his Trump nick name of Tampon Tim) and Trump/Vance who pledged to end men in women’s sport.
3 . The weeping sore of the open border = rising crime
Trump worked hard to seal the border with a raft of policies: ending catch and release, the ‘stay in Mexico’ policy for asylum seekers, no benefits for migrants and building sections of a border wall. The net effect was, by the end of his Presidency in 2020, that the US had the lowest number of illegal border incursions in a generation.
Biden ended all that on almost Day 1 of his Presidency reversing a raft of effective Trump Executive Orders essentially throwing open the border. In late September, the Assistant Director of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) sent a letter to the relevant House of Representatives Oversight Committee representative detailing that 11,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists had been allowed illegal entry into the country
5. The impact of a free Twitter
Breaking news of a controversial nature that would either be ignored by legacy media or suppressed by all other platforms can now be done freely on Twitter where, contrary to the naysayers that predicted that Twitter 2.0 would fail, it has increased its reach and viewership even more since becoming a genuine free speech platform. Musk’s decision to liberate Twitter has had a profound impact on the type of dialogue that could be had in the run up to the 2024 election and it became impossible for Harris and the Democrats to silence their critics in the way they were successfully able to during the 2020 election. |
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Post by ComfortZone on Nov 8, 2024 15:48:46 GMT 12
Not sure who this guy is but bloody fascinating read. www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2024/11/10_reasons_why_trump_won-_part_1.htmlCouple of snippets, Harris must be as tone deaf as they come. The left’s obsession with trans rights was personified by Harris when she bragged that when she was Attorney General of California, she arranged for the State to pay for trans gender surgeries for inmates.
A stark divide opened up between Harris and Waltz (who installed tampons in boys’ toilets in all public schools across Minnesota hence his Trump nick name of Tampon Tim) and Trump/Vance who pledged to end men in women’s sport.
3 . The weeping sore of the open border = rising crime
Trump worked hard to seal the border with a raft of policies: ending catch and release, the ‘stay in Mexico’ policy for asylum seekers, no benefits for migrants and building sections of a border wall. The net effect was, by the end of his Presidency in 2020, that the US had the lowest number of illegal border incursions in a generation.
Biden ended all that on almost Day 1 of his Presidency reversing a raft of effective Trump Executive Orders essentially throwing open the border. In late September, the Assistant Director of the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) sent a letter to the relevant House of Representatives Oversight Committee representative detailing that 11,000 murderers and 15,000 rapists had been allowed illegal entry into the country
5. The impact of a free Twitter
Breaking news of a controversial nature that would either be ignored by legacy media or suppressed by all other platforms can now be done freely on Twitter where, contrary to the naysayers that predicted that Twitter 2.0 would fail, it has increased its reach and viewership even more since becoming a genuine free speech platform. Musk’s decision to liberate Twitter has had a profound impact on the type of dialogue that could be had in the run up to the 2024 election and it became impossible for Harris and the Democrats to silence their critics in the way they were successfully able to during the 2020 election.Good piece. As I have mentioned previously and he wrote 2. “It’s the economy stupid.”
In the 1992 election when Bill Clinton beat popular Ronald Reagan’s Vice President George HW Bush (who had won easily 1988), the main reason was the recession of 1991/92 and its economic impact. Clinton’s famous aggressive Louisiana hard ball advisor James Carville kept Clinton and his campaign focused like a laser on the economy to the point where everywhere in their campaign offices was the sign “it’s the economy stupid” to avoid distraction on other issues. The massive printing of money that began with Covid and accelerated with all the Green New Deal spending boondoggles had the predictable effect of driving up inflation. The Biden Administration’s war on traditional energy (cancelling the Keystone XL pipeline, cancelling new oil and gas leases on Federal land and the EV mandates) all had the effect of scaling back the massive domestic energy boom under Trump’s first term causing a rise in energy prices, a process accelerated by the war in Ukraine and the uncertainty in the Middle East. This had the effect of driving up grocery prices in leaps not seen since the high inflation of the ‘70’s and a substantial increase in prices of petrol at the pump. Whilst the high inflation rate did come down somewhat as did prices at the pump, for the latter part of the Biden Harris Presidency, increasing numbers of Americans were struggling to make ends meet and suffered a decline in their standard of living. When combined with a doubling of mortgage interest rates due to the Federal Reserve’s efforts to curb high inflation (which in turn increased domestic rents), job uncertainty and massive house price inflation fueled by the Covid supply chain shortages and untrammeled immigration, the American dream of home ownership for the rising generation became a more distant and unreachable goal. For the first time since the formation of the Republic in the 18th century, Gen Z became the first generation of young American adults to face a country less prosperous and with fewer economic opportunities than the previous generation.
American voters across almost all age, gender and race demographics were demonstrably and intuitively worse off under Biden than they were under Trump and in this election, for the first time since Andrew Jackson ran for a second term in 1836, we had a race between an incumbent (Harris) and a challenger who had recently been President in the previous term and the economic juxtaposition proved to be electorally damaging for Harris.
This is how "Kiwi in America" introduced himself some years ago As someone who helped run political campaigns at a national level in a previous life in New Zealand, I view the mechanics of political campaigns through the lens of some who once lived and breathed the nuts and bolts of getting your man elected daily.
He wrote this insightful piece a few months ago on the fraudulent voting in the US 2020 presidential election
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