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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 16:59:49 GMT 12
Hmm so the government is taking 25c of the fuel tax.So today 95 is $3.16 that means in morning it will be $ 2.91 bet its not.Oh we just had another increase,who would know??
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Post by dutyfree on Mar 14, 2022 17:08:48 GMT 12
How the worm turns.
Suss the indignation.
OMG you must post a HEALTH WARNING!!! 
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Post by em on Mar 14, 2022 18:00:36 GMT 12
I think it’s fuckin great . NZ refining is an independent company so can do whatever blows their skirt up on the day . im looking at the smog cloud from that place now and could smell the bugger yesterday when we were racing . we live 15k from the refinery at 320m above sea level and have a very good horizontal view of the shit that place spews . On a clear morning like this with a morning land breeze the smog layer sits a few hundred meters up is about 50 metres thick and extends way out to sea . call me a weirdo greenie if you please but it’s a shithole and a massive money sink that place . I’ve surfed at ocean beach and gagged on the fumes , I’ve lived across the harbour from it and had headaches from the fumes , we bailed from Marsden cove last weekend after the Route66 cause it stunk so bad . I think the fuel import model is a good idea , import cheap fuel from countries where they don’t have to spend millions on PPE and two “tool box talks “ per day and employ H and S officers etc . there’s a big Co2 food packaging plant in Hamilton and meat is predominately packed in Co2 packs now in trays with the plastic film lid that’s glued on . So you are HAPPY to have it closed and NZ import all fuel.Meanwhile another country with refineries has to put up the crap from a refinerary just to give us fuel?? Tongue in cheek mate . The fuel is cheaper probably because they don’t have the same incredibly safe operation protocols employed at marsden . Apparently it’s the only refinery of that era/design that hasn’t gone up in a fireball , though it has had a few close calls . So yeah some poor buggers in Singapore (mostly Indians) have to risk their lives so we can tarnish what’s left of the gulf with 2 stroke exhaust , 4 stroke exhaust and diesel exhaust . |
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Post by sloopjohnb on Mar 14, 2022 19:24:38 GMT 12
MARCH 14, 2022 8:04AM BY DAVID FARRAR
The extra cost of petrol is not just Ukraine
According to MBIE data, here is how much the taxes on petrol have gone up since September 2017:
ETS from 2.6 c to 18.1c
GST from 24.6c to 37.5c
Excise tax from 91.1c to 118.0c
So that is an extra 55.3 cents a litre going to the Government. The overall price is $1.02 a litre more than in Sep 2017, so more than half the increase is due to Government taxes.
Around 3.2 billion litres of petrol are sold in NZ every year so the extra revenue for the Government from petrol sales is $1.77 billion a year!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 19:46:27 GMT 12
That's the truth. And it's all to pay for the greens "wants"
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 19:50:42 GMT 12
So you are HAPPY to have it closed and NZ import all fuel.Meanwhile another country with refineries has to put up the crap from a refinerary just to give us fuel?? Tongue in cheek mate . The fuel is cheaper probably because they don’t have the same incredibly safe operation protocols employed at marsden . Apparently it’s the only refinery of that era/design that hasn’t gone up in a fireball , though it has had a few close calls . So yeah some poor buggers in Singapore (mostly Indians) have to risk their lives so we can tarnish what’s left of the gulf with 2 stroke exhaust , 4 stroke exhaust and diesel exhaust . I think the council pollutes the harbours and rivers, with sewerage, more than bio degradable 2 Stroke oil. |
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Post by fish on Mar 14, 2022 20:23:13 GMT 12
Tongue in cheek mate . The fuel is cheaper probably because they don’t have the same incredibly safe operation protocols employed at marsden . Apparently it’s the only refinery of that era/design that hasn’t gone up in a fireball , though it has had a few close calls . So yeah some poor buggers in Singapore (mostly Indians) have to risk their lives so we can tarnish what’s left of the gulf with 2 stroke exhaust , 4 stroke exhaust and diesel exhaust . I think the council pollutes the harbours and rivers, with sewerage, more than bio degradable 2 Stroke oil. It's not the Council taking a poo every morning, its you. Take some ownership for your shit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2022 20:52:43 GMT 12
WTF. Mr agro.,.
It's your shit polluting the harbour too!... What are you doing about it!
I, like you ,do take responsibility for it! A big percentage of my taxes and rates goes to council to treat my shit and dispose of it cleanly.
So when they fail and end up polluting our beaches THATS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY NOT MINE.
When the system fails that's their problem and they are payed well to ensure compliance with the standards.
IF I shat directly into the sea then that would be my issue.
So, I repeat, the council pollutes the harbour more than 2 Stroke bio degradable oil.( ref NMMA TC-W3 )
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Post by fish on Mar 14, 2022 21:47:05 GMT 12
WTF. Mr agro.,. It's your shit polluting the harbour too!... What are you doing about it! I, like you ,do take responsibility for it! A big percentage of my taxes and rates goes to council to treat my shit and dispose of it cleanly. So when they fail and end up polluting our beaches THATS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY NOT MINE. When the system fails that's their problem and they are payed well to ensure compliance with the standards. IF I shat directly into the sea then that would be my issue. So, I repeat, the council pollutes the harbour more than 2 Stroke bio degradable oil.( ref NMMA TC-W3 ) Mmmm, think you will find that Council don't deal with any shit. Watercare may or may not deal with yours though. But I guess I'm struggling with your logic that feaces is less bio-degradable than 2 stroke oil. HT made a call that we are polluting our Gulf with 2 stroke exhaust, 4 stroke exhaust and diesel exhaust. The bit I'm interested in, is your logic (or lack of logic) to justify that by criticizing a completely unrelated third party (Watercare) because their system discharges your biological nutrients when it rains. I'm not sure you can justify polluting the Gulf with hydrocarbons with that logic. We could always blame this govt, or the last govt, and continue to avoid all personal responsibility I guess. If that works for you? PS, are you genuinely interested in what I am doing about stopping your shit going into our waterways? I've got a wee bit to say on the topic, it may take a while, are you up for it? Oh, and I live good and close to the treatment plant, so its not my shit polluting the harbour. The consented overflow point on my network is well upstream of me, so I can flush even when its raining ;-) PPS, you do realise you state you take responsibility for your shit, and then blame someone else for it ending up on the beach - is that what they call a tautology? like, how can you take responsibility for it, when you say it is someone else fault? PPPS, another observation if I may, you call me Mr Agro, then go to town with exclamation! marks! and YELLING, In CAPS LOCK, I just wanted to say, that is coming across a little hypocritical. But each to their own. Didn't this thread used to be about fuel costs? |
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Post by OLD ROPE 👀 on Mar 14, 2022 23:42:53 GMT 12
Fish, who employs watercare!... The council.
So you are saying it's all Aucklanders fault thier shite ends up on the beach.
Aquaholic is correct. It's like any service you pay for. If the service is not competed to the standard required then it's the providers fault not the customers.
Eg - you employ a plumber to install a Faucet. It doesn't work!. The plumber is responsible not you.
Watercare is A joke! They have constant issues with thier system and whether that is their fault or a funding issue ...it is not The public's problem nor fault.
... And your reply was Agressive.
And I looked up NMMN TC-W3 and it relates to the new emmisions standard for 2 Stroke oil bio degradebility. Read it and be informed.
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Post by dutyfree on Mar 15, 2022 6:59:12 GMT 12
Re- Marsden Point, we imported all of the fuel anyway, just as crude. All we did was process it.
Energy security is a related, but different issue. A refinery is useful if you can access crude, eg if other refineries are out.
Storage should be increased as a result of the refinery closing. Gull already imported all of its fuel.
Closing should not change the NZ price as they price at import parity.
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Post by em on Mar 15, 2022 7:23:16 GMT 12
Fish, who employs watercare!... The council. So you are saying it's all Aucklanders fault thier shite ends up on the beach. Aquaholic is correct. It's like any service you pay for. If the service is not competed to the standard required then it's the providers fault not the customers. Eg - you employ a plumber to install a Faucet. It doesn't work!. The plumber is responsible not you. Watercare is A joke! They have constant issues with thier system and whether that is their fault or a funding issue ...it is not The public's problem nor fault. ... And your reply was Agressive. And I looked up NMMN TC-W3 and it relates to the new emmisions standard for 2 Stroke oil bio degradebility. Read it and be informed. I have been using this stuff for 18mths with no issues and have done two deliveries to Auckland with an 8hp , one was 10hrs and the other 12hrs . Motor is a 2006 Mercury . ironically the cloud in the background over Mt Manaia is vapour from the refinery , from anywhere else you wouldn’t know but up here it sticks out like dog balls , a clear trail of vapour precipitating on the cliffs ….no wonder the bush is lush up there and the kaka are mental buggers .  |
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Post by armchairadmiral on Mar 15, 2022 7:26:39 GMT 12
Wow....ETS @ 18.1 c per litre.I didn't know that.All disappearing into a big black hole of Government(s) to be pillaged and plundered. All at Green behest ? They used to be environmentalists but now just ideological opportunists. .It beats me that people are so stupid they can't see through them. I think Jeanette Fitzsimons wa the last genuine Greenie pollie ? Petrol taxes up around a dollar since the bimbo PM took over destroying NZ. Howzat team of 5 million. Gotcha whilst she was being kind
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Post by em on Mar 15, 2022 7:33:56 GMT 12
Pic quality isn’t great …fractioning stack is pointed out by red arrow and vapour/smog trail is outlined in yellow . Doesn’t look scary but I can assure you it effing stinks and anyone up Mt Manaia right now won’t be having a pleasant time . Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2022 8:03:28 GMT 12
Pic quality isn’t great …fractioning stack is pointed out by red arrow and vapour/smog trail is outlined in yellow . Doesn’t look scary but I can assure you it effing stinks and anyone up Mt Manaia right now won’t be having a pleasant time . em, that's what you get for living higher than the stack. Meanwhile down at ground level 👌💯. And the cloud over Reotahi is from the thermal vapour released from the trees on Manaia cooling as it rises. Vapour from the stack dissipates within seconds. |
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